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Old 11-23-2005, 12:40 PM
Nikla Nikla is offline
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Hey. I've been in Sydney the last 2 months. I'll be going back to Norway in mid december so I wont be attending the aussie milliona. You an aussie?
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Old 11-23-2005, 07:27 PM
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Hey. I've been in Sydney the last 2 months. I'll be going back to Norway in mid december so I wont be attending the aussie milliona. You an aussie?

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Yep I live in Melbourne. Did you come out here to live or was it a (working?) holiday or something or other??
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Old 11-23-2005, 12:56 PM
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As for you Josh/Sthief fkr. You should know that kiddo is a [censored] svensk, hence he is beneath my kind.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:17 PM
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As for you Josh/Sthief fkr. You should know that kiddo is a [censored] svensk, hence he is beneath my kind.

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omfg lol
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:51 PM
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As for you Josh/Sthief fkr. You should know that kiddo is a [censored] svensk, hence he is beneath my kind.

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It sounds like you and Lakerman must have gotten into a fight?
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:59 AM
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As for you Josh/Sthief fkr. You should know that kiddo is a [censored] svensk, hence he is beneath my kind.

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Well, you got Fleksnes (a grown up shouting "Deeeoooohh" all the time) and John Teigen (only one that ever got zero points in the yearly European Song Contest), it says it all [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]. If we had them in Sweden we would lock them up forver (or send them to Norway). But what do u do in Norway? U make them into TV-stars. Thats brutal.

And when u dont work u use your free time running up on mounting peaks for no reason but to prove you have been there.

A joke we told each other in school:

What do a swede do when a norwigan throw a hand grenade over the border? He pulls the pin and throws it back.

(not sure if "pulls the pin" is correct english: "release the safety catch" is something else, its what u do with a gun?)
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:20 AM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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not sure if "pulls the pin" is correct english

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It is. You can't berate Norwegians and then end with something like this. I'm afraid national honour will require me and the other Swedes here to hunt you down and kill you now. Too bad, was kinda planning to take you up on that coaching. Oh well, guess necromancy remains an option.
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:40 AM
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I read through Kiddos offer on his site and it seems quite good to me. However if I were to get a coach I would definitely want some live sweating through irc,msn,aim whatever, in addition to indepth analysis of handblocks.
Infact I think Kiddo's offer would be much better if he charged $500 and included 2 hours of live coaching.


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Thx and yep, for some players it definetly would be better to get live-coaching while they play (if that is what u were talking about).

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As to the cost, I did some coaching awhile back and it's very timeconsuming and it can be quite draining. So I really dont think he's overcharging at all assuming he's as good a teacher as I think he is.

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Yep.

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One should note that you can have a really good player coaching you, but he won't necessarily be worthwhile to you if he's unable to identify your most pressing leaks (usually misunderstanding concepts or misapplying concepts) and present them to you in a clear and coherent way. Some people play poker alot better than they talk poker, you don't want one of those guys tutoring you.

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Yep, if you for example read Doyle Brunsons book on NL you will see that he talks a lot about "feel". Cloutier talks the same way in his NL&PL book. This is worthless if u want to learn.

Normally the problems starts when we got conflicting concepts like: "I want to see flop cheap with 98s and I want to isolate this bad guy limping", or: "I dont have a hand on this flop so I shouldnt bet but I guess noone else got a hand so I should bet."

What a coach then need to do is break down those concepts and see whats behind, not talking about getting "a feel" for how to play.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:29 AM
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I am considering doing some coaching on the side. The format will entail me analyzing a video of the player's play, creating a write up of interesting or misplayed hands/situations, then discussing the writeup on AIM and answering any questions. I would like to help a few players as a trial before deciding if I want to do this permanently and make a website, etc. PM me if interested and for pricing details, qualifications, or any other info. For a ballpark I am thinking $100 per hour but I'll do the first few players at 50% discount since hopefully I will be learning as much as they do. The price will be fixed though for video + analysis + discussion and will depend on the length of video. BTW, I'd feel comfortable coaching players at any shorthanded level up to and including 1-1.5bb/100 (suspected) winners at 10/20.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:34 AM
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What I think would be really useful from a coaching session:

1) Analysis of your PT data. E.g. general trends. This will give pointers for later sessions

2) Video sweat. e.g. email them a 1 hour video of you 4-tabling. This is FAR better than a simple HH file, because they can see everything from your exact perspective. This can then be discussed over AIM etc.

3) Follow up. E.g. some access to the person over AIM for the next few weeks, to check up on whether you are applying certain concepts correctly by sending them the odd simple hand you were unsure about.
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