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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
Surely if you just call, check, call Trix, that's classic calling station play?
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
What is your reason for checking behind the turn? I guess you are trying to induce a bluff in a small pot because it is worth it to give him a free draw at a two- or three-outer? I think he'll call with these hands a lot (especially a pocket pair), so you should just go ahead and bet the turn.
-Michael |
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
What about call, call, call? In shorthanded pots, there are lots of players who taking this strategy is the best option. Who cares if calling stations also do it? They're doing with unimproved JT, and you're doing it with a hand that can beat a bluff.
-Michael |
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
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that's classic calling station play? [/ QUOTE ] It sure is. What´s your point ? |
#25
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
I dont want him check-folding or check-raising the turn and I think checking behind will make him spend another bet on the river often.
You could be right about him check-calling to induce a bluff and not getting raised with a low pocket pair. Probably player dependant. |
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
If you raise you're gonna have a better idea of where you're at rather than paying him off everytime he has the K. I'm not claiming to be an expert, just thought this kind of play was to be avoided unless aginst a maniac.
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
He will also have a better idea that he is beat if he has a weak hand.
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
I'm with Trix.
We're taking this to SD. So if we are ahead then checking behind on the turn will induce a bluff on the river. If we are behind then checking behind lowers our loss by one bb. We win one extra bb when ahead, and lose one less bb when behind. What's not to like? |
#29
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
Because you are forgetting the times that your opponent will pay you off twice with a pocket pair or ace high. When he checks to you on the turn, he is announcing that he doesn't have top pair. If he does and decides to check it, hey, you got screwed. You also avoid giving him a free card on the turn when he does have outs to beat you. Checking behind on the turn is awful against a player who, say, will not bluff bet the river with ace high but will never pay off either.
There is no reason to take this to showdown every time. If you are checkraised on the turn, you can fold. -Michael |
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Re: Common Party $3-$6 Situation
Call, call, and bet the river if checked to you. This is a bet that can be made with a) a hand with a K, b) a mid-small pocket pair or c) someone with a hair up their ass. Most of the time, it's a) or b) - pretty much 50/50 in my book. Add in the uncommon c) and there's no way you can fold here without a read.
- Jim |
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