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Old 03-30-2005, 06:04 PM
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:15 AM
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For anyone who saw the clip of the Bobby Fischer press conferance the other day on SportsCenter, I have to say that Jeremy Schaap has all of my respect on how he handled the situation...Bobby Fischer on the other hand has zero respect from me. All he did cement the fact with the entire world that he is an arrogant INSANE man.

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Any chance of a link to this video?
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Old 03-31-2005, 02:27 AM
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I wish Bobby the best, and a life of peace in Iceland.

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We have an extradition treaty with Iceland. I look forward to his life of incarcaration in the U.S. penal system.
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Old 03-31-2005, 03:07 AM
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Jeremy Schaap is a total douchebag. Of course, so is Bobby Fischer.
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Old 03-31-2005, 03:53 AM
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For anyone who saw the clip of the Bobby Fischer press conferance the other day on SportsCenter, I have to say that Jeremy Schaap has all of my respect on how he handled the situation...Bobby Fischer on the other hand has zero respect from me. All he did cement the fact with the entire world that he is an arrogant INSANE man.

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I saw the tail end of the interview. I wish I could see it again, to digest exactly how everything was said.

I've been keeping up with the Fischer "soap opera" since I started playing chess 15 years ago. Fischer is a unique personality, molded by the harsh conflict of the cold war during his generation. He seems to have gotten himself into an impossible situation, long ago, professionally in chess, then socially, and eventually politically. It was always him against the world in chess, and now it is his life in general.

Jeremy Schapp is a punk, looking to pick a fight, similar to Jeremy Schapp's interview with Bobby Knight a few years ago. I don't know why some of these two-bit reporters do this, I guess it's just part of their game, trying to make a name for themself.

In the interview, Fischer resembled a broken man, to me. He semi-rehashed the same stories he's been telling for the last 15 years. How his property in the U.S. was stolen after the U.S. sanctions against him were invoked, and how he blames the jews for the fact that his life has become a ruin. It's bad enough that he's a raving anti-semite, but he seems to make it a centerpiece to his every thought, action and word. I know I'm alone in wishing that we as a society would help such a genius be rehabilitated, rather than parading him around as the lunatic that he has become. I guess jew hating really is the worst thing a man can do, even worse than child sodomizing priests and pop stars, apparently.

I wish Bobby the best, and a life of peace in Iceland.

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Jeremy Schaap was part of a perfectly reasonable Q&amp;A session with Fischer. I believe the confrontation when Fishcer asked Schaap if he was Jewish. Schaap responded that yes he was, and that Fischer had known his father. They get to talking about Dick Schaap taking Fischer to Knicks games and whatnot. Then, Fischer says something to the effect of, "And then, like a typical Jew pig, he goes on to write those awful things about me." (I know typical Jewish pig was used). Anyway, he's referring to Dick Schaap saying "There isn't a sane bone in his body."

Fischer talked about getting his name out of the Encyclopedia Judiaca, to which Schaap asked if his mother was Jewish. Then the real fun starts. Fischer goes crazy. Schaap interupts the rant to say, "I don't believe we've seen anything today to not support my father's pronouncement." Fischer continues on with his typical anti-semetism. After a little more Schaap looked very steadily at him, then silently turned and walked out of the group of reporters.
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Old 03-31-2005, 04:27 AM
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My guess is [Boby Fischer] could EASILY surpass every hold'em player (limit or no limit) on this forum with two years of study and experience.

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Unlikely. Chess is a game of complete information. One criticism of Fischer was that he always played the same way regardless of the opponent. No-limit is all about putting yourself in the other guy's shoes.

Do you think Stuey Ungar - whose ability at cards you must put on a par with Fischer's at chess - couldve become a grandmaster in a couple of years?

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Being good in chess does not necessarily mean that you are good in any other endeavor in life.

I trust there's no need to belabor this point.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:28 AM
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His political comments justify giving BF no respect as a person...


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I think it's important to seperate Bobby's actions from his humanity. His raving hatred towards jews or anyone else should certainly be condemned. IMO, it's a symptom of whatever mental instability that is plauging him. As a person, he deserves respect just like every other living breathing person.

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I look forward to his life of incarcaration in the U.S. penal system.


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Why?

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Jeremy Schaap was part of a perfectly reasonable Q&amp;A session with Fischer.

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That Jeremy Schaap did the interview at all was disappointing. If he had any integrity at all he'd have never agreed to open these old wounds. If Jeremy Schapp had some unsettled business with Fischer, it could have been a more private venue. Even more, Jeremy Schapp was pressing those buttons that just make Fischer go off, such as asking about Bobby's mother. If you've been following the Fischer saga, you know that Jeremy Schapp was playing wiffleball with a senile old man.

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"There isn't a sane bone in his body."

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I don't think there's any debate here. Maybe Schapp was just trying to vindicate his father somehow? The logic completely eludes me. Again, Jeremey Schapp's career seems to be one step above prison porn, so maybe he's actually this desperate for an interviewing gig.

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[Boby Fischer] could EASILY surpass every hold'em player (limit or no limit) on this forum with two years of study and experience.


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Is this before or after he goes on an insane rant about how the jews rigged the cards against him? He'd make Phil Helmuth look like a pussycat.
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Old 04-02-2005, 04:34 PM
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One criticism of Fischer was that he always played the same way regardless of the opponent.

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I'm not an avid chess player, but from what I've read I was under the impression that what made Fischer so great was his creativity - as opposed to the more rigid (though still extremely effective) style of the Russians.
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Old 04-02-2005, 06:07 PM
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While Fischer may have been totally out of bounds, it was Jeremy Schaap that was the big loser in that exchange. Everyone already knew that Fischer was out to lunch, there was no need for Schaap to get into that exchange with him.
The biggest problem that Jeremy Schaap has is getting people to take him seriously as a journalist. The fact that he works for the same network that his father did makes people naturally skeptical of him. In his tenure on ESPN Jeremy has done nothing to make viewers think of him as anything other than just Dick Schaap's son, and his exchange with Fischer was further evidence that he does not stand on his own two feet as a journalist.
What Jeremy Schaap did is a cardinal sin of journalism, he injected himself into the story. He took Fischer's bait and responded like a good son, but a bad journalist. The moment he began to defend his father, he abandoned any claim to journalistic integrity. A journalist's job is to report the story, not become the story. Schaap did the latter.
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:26 PM
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I'm not an avid chess player, but from what I've read I was under the impression that what made Fischer so great was his creativity - as opposed to the more rigid (though still extremely effective) style of the Russians.



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The easiest way to invision Fischer for the non-chessplayer is illustrated in the movie "Rainman", when the box of toothpicks falls on the floor and the kook immediately declares exactly how many toothpicks are in the pile. It doesn't really matter who spilled the box of toothpicks, or who arranges the pawns and pieces on the chessboard. Fischer could find the answer (winning combination) with mutant accuracy and ease that will never been seen again.
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