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Old 12-15-2005, 02:52 AM
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Cool! For once making a bad choice related to poker pays off [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:59 AM
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AJ, do we get an explanation of why you pushed 1 and 3 and folded 2? I would like to know your thought process.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:16 AM
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AJ, do we get an explanation of why you pushed 1 and 3 and folded 2? I would like to know your thought process.

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Hand #1 -- Villian's a donk. Open-Minraised me preflop from button. I put in a real raise. He raises again. A little more than a minraise but not much. I'm not going to play AK OOP agst him and I'm not folding it either. I figure I am ahead of his hand most of the time and I have alot of FE. I push, he calls with QQ. So he actually had a premium hand. I spike a K, and double up.

Hand #2 -- I have 1.5+ buy-ins. Preflop reraiser has 3.5 buy-ins. I'm not going to risk that against a guy who covers me. (EDIT: especially in this huge family pot situation) Also, the initial PFR can reopen the betting if I just call. I don't like the push here. And, I don't like the call. I don't want to make a real raise and play a big pot OOP. I've invested one dollar in the hand so far. I'm probably missing a little EV by folding...but it can't be alot. Original PFR held QQ in this hand, flopped a set that turned into quads, and scooped a nice pot.

Hand #3 -- Both guys have half-stacks. Imagine a NL25 table where the folks have $12 in front of them. You guys can see pushing that at NL25, right? I want to see 5 cards with AK. I have alot of FE. Pots big enough to take it right there. My push squeezes the original PFR'er. In this hand, I pushed, and both villians folded.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:13 AM
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I've invested one dollar in the hand so far.

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I'm probably missing a little EV by folding...but it can't be alot.

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Your logic is pretty awful.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:44 AM
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It may be just me, but I think your thought process for hand 2 is a little reversed. Since MP1 has such a big stack, I would be more inclined to take risks in order to build it up and do battle with him.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:12 PM
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Hand #1 -- Villian's a donk. Open-Minraised me preflop from button. I put in a real raise. He raises again. A little more than a minraise but not much. I'm not going to play AK OOP agst him and I'm not folding it either. I figure I am ahead of his hand most of the time and I have alot of FE. I push, he calls with QQ. So he actually had a premium hand. I spike a K, and double up.



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We all expected this (except I thought AA). When a donk minraises-3bets its usually a stellar holding. Especially when you were in the blinds man; he didn't want you folding. I see this play and note it very often, most times when its shown down it's a premium hand. I think this should be an instant fold. In my mind you got the best scenario
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:57 AM
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Where can the results from the votings be found?
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:52 PM
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Meh. Regarding Hand #1. You guys have seen this before. A donk minraises preflop, another donk minraises back, and they minraise back and forth 2 more times, and they have QT and A8...I had a good read on the dude in Hand #1. I didn't put specific reads in on each villian in each hand because I didn't want to make the OP too long. Turns out he had a good hand, but he could have very easily had a J9/KT type hand there.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:39 PM
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Meh. Regarding Hand #1. You guys have seen this before. A donk minraises preflop, another donk minraises back, and they minraise back and forth 2 more times, and they have QT and A8...I had a good read on the dude in Hand #1. I didn't put specific reads in on each villian in each hand because I didn't want to make the OP too long. Turns out he had a good hand, but he could have very easily had a J9/KT type hand there.

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Do you mean hand 2?
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:27 AM
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1 I insta muck.
2 I call.
3 I push.
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