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#21
02-24-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
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You all realize rounders didnt do great in the theatres, and that much of the sales have been from DVDs AFTER the poker boom. ~Justin [/ QUOTE ] It's a self fulfilling cycle. The movie created more interest, which created more poker players, which created more DVD sales. It's difficult to argue against the roll of Rounders when the single player most responsible, moneymaker, said he took the game up after watching it. 
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#22
02-24-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
For the life of me, I don't get that. In Rounders, the Damon character made the wrong choice at almost every opportunity:
Don't read the following if you're the one person in the world who hasn't seen the movie and doesn't want it spoiled Taking his entire BR to one game, lying to his girlfriend, not dumping Worm as soon as it was clear that Worm was on his way down and willing to take Damon with him, vouching for Worm when it's clear that Worm's completely unreliable, not getting up from the cop game as soon as Worm sat down, letting himself get trash-talked back into a game when he'd managed to save his butt. This is what people aspire to? Only reaffirms my faith in poker players.
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#23
02-24-2005, 03:47 PM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
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For the life of me, I don't get that. In Rounders, the Damon character made the wrong choice at almost every opportunity: Don't read the following if you're the one person in the world who hasn't seen the movie and doesn't want it spoiled Taking his entire BR to one game, lying to his girlfriend, not dumping Worm as soon as it was clear that Worm was on his way down and willing to take Damon with him, vouching for Worm when it's clear that Worm's completely unreliable, not getting up from the cop game as soon as Worm sat down, letting himself get trash-talked back into a game when he'd managed to save his butt. This is what people aspire to? Only reaffirms my faith in poker players. [/ QUOTE ] And they didn't exactly improve their story telling skills with TILT either.
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#25
02-24-2005, 04:29 PM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
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OTOH, it was one of the all-time great Malkovich parts, even if it was the stupidest tell in all creation. [/ QUOTE ] btw, I just want to thank you for probably ruining a film I used to enjoy watching...making me think about how bad a story it really was. Jerk!! ;-)
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#27
02-25-2005, 01:39 AM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
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Raymer's final table wasn't all that fun to watch to the uninitiated, which is what most people watching on ESPN are. It was a fantastic display of big-stack, brute force poker aggression. Raymer eliminated player after player, and was in command from the beginning. Moneymaker's was much more of a battle, he came from behind, and someone said it best. Farha was the perfect arch-enemy lounge lizard type for the good old boy from TN playing in his first poker tournament to beat. It was like a movie script---kind of like Mike against KGB in Rounders, huh? [/ QUOTE ] There is no question Raymer is the better player, he wielded his big stack like an atomic bomb, crushing player after player after player - yea he won races but so what, races are supposed to go one way or the other - so yea - this final table was fun to watch (just should've showed more!!") to watch a big stack tear up the little ones
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#28
02-25-2005, 09:40 AM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
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Poker is where it is at now for 2 reasons pocket cams and rounders. Everything now is a direct result of pocket cams. The 50% you gave for tv coverage is a direct result of poket cams. And I would give 10% to moneymaker, 10% to rounders... [/ QUOTE ] I would also suggest that having the majority of live poker rooms go non-smoking a few years ago helped bring in players who don't wish to get lung cancer while drawing to a gutshot...
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#29
02-25-2005, 11:29 AM
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Re: RGP analysis brilliance, Fossilman
Lets be honest he was boring, nerdy, and lucky. I found his play interesting, but it got a little repetitive seeing him win every race again and again. He just got extremely lucky which got a little boring.
Sure, that's how he won- all he did was win every race on every hand he played.... Unlike Phil Hellmuth, who wins only through his skill, right? Judge not based on ESPN telecasts- they might not even have the accurate hands displayed!
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