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Old 08-09-2005, 05:08 PM
AngryCola AngryCola is offline
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

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Do not lump me in with those people.

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People are comfortable with lumping.
It requires less thinking than reading each post for what it is.

As for your post, wacki...

I agree with a lot of it, but I'm not sure how much of your advice 2+2 is willing to take. If OOT is that much of a problem for them, they'll probably just get rid of it entirely.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:10 PM
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If this is for real -- if there really are serious legal or financial issues relative to this forum, or at least about which the owner(s) of this forum are concerned -- then don't you think the first move should be to remove any control over how this forum operates from college students and other anonymous/non-anonymous moderators that are not affiliated with the company? If this was my business, I wouldn't be giving anyone who didn't work for me control over any issue that could hit me in the pocketbook in any meaningful fashion, particularly if I've never met them (and I don't know whether that is the case here).
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:10 PM
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I don't understand the need to moderate OOT at all. The more crap fits in here, the less litigation there will be in the poker forums. Just let everyone act out here, who cares? It keeps the "serious" forums clean.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

Good point. And there ain't gonna be no gd litigation issues around some internet posting forum anyway. Really, who and what are they gonna sue for?

Indy
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

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then don't you think the first move should be to remove any control over how this forum operates from college students and other anonymous/non-anonymous moderators that are not affiliated with the company?

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As far as I know, Mat already did that. He is the only listed mod of OOT.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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I really can't see how 2+2 could get into legal problems because of OOT. It's not like anyone's posting kiddie porn in here. I'm pretty sure they can't be held responsible for anything posted in OOT.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

This post reeks of ignorance. It's almost sad.


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The reason I made this post was not to complain like many others are doing. The reason I made this post was to help Mat.

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Did he post an 'open request for Wacki's help?'. No? Ok, that makes it a whine/complaint.


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I respect Mat...

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...just not enough to trust him to share this with his co-workers (or whatever they are), so I will make it public rather then a PM...

(boy, that's some respect you have there).


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...but I saw him take bad advice from a very bad source. That was a huge mistake.

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Who are you again to judge other peoples advice and/or the source? Who are you to deem it a 'huge mistake'? You 'advice' has suddenly become an insult. Nice job.


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I also get the impression that they are genuinely not sure how to treat OOT.

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Seems to me Mat knows exactly how to treat OOT. He deletes/locks threads he feels are offensive to the masses.

If I remember correctly, it was the Mods that didn't know how to treat OOT, spending their time being more worried about gimmick accounts and their personal opinions/feelings, instead of simply following the guidlines that Mat setout.


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If OOT is a business, then Mat should talk to a lawyer and then have mods execute those rules. If advertisers want more rules, he should hand those rules to the mods on top of the rules given by the lawyer.

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You are still confused as to weather or not 2+2 is a business? Or are you insulting him to the fact that you do not feel he knows?


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I am not complaining. Do not lump me in with those people.

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That ship seems to have sailed.


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I am giving Mat business advice.

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...even though he didn't ask me for it.






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Old 08-09-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

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I really can't see how 2+2 could get into legal problems because of OOT. It's not like anyone's posting kiddie porn in here. I'm pretty sure they can't be held responsible for anything posted in OOT.

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One way in which I believe they could get into legal trouble (I am not a lawyer) is if people post copyrighted material here. I think it isn't acceptable, for example, to cut and paste an NYTimes article.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:19 PM
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Mods delete posts early. They are a quick acting safety net that handle the bulk of the load. That is it. The current system puts way too much stress on Mat.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:20 PM
gulebjorn gulebjorn is offline
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Default Re: An open letter to Mat Sklansky

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I really can't see how 2+2 could get into legal problems because of OOT. It's not like anyone's posting kiddie porn in here. I'm pretty sure they can't be held responsible for anything posted in OOT.

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One way in which I believe they could get into legal trouble (I am not a lawyer) is if people post copyrighted material here. I think it isn't acceptable, for example, to cut and paste an NYTimes article.

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I'm sure the Times would sue their asses off for such a horrible violation of copyright laws.
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