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11-20-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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How about you just don't drink and drive, [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] How about "it's possible to drink socially without impairing your driving ability," "[censored]?" Milo, have you ever had an alcoholic beverage? Were you automatically smashed after drinking one? How about two? If you know your limit, and you are below it, why should you have to jump through legal hoops just to get home at 2 in the morning when there are barely any cars out without having your license suspended? No need to insult me. Yeah, I've driven with more than 1 beer in me, but I drive better at 0.07999999 BAC than most South Floridians drive at 0.00. If you've ever driven here, you'll know that this applies to most people. 
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11-20-2005, 02:33 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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[ QUOTE ] How about you just don't drink and drive, [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] How about "it's possible to drink socially without impairing your driving ability," "[censored]?" Milo, have you ever had an alcoholic beverage? Were you automatically smashed after drinking one? How about two? If you know your limit, and you are below it, why should you have to jump through legal hoops just to get home at 2 in the morning when there are barely any cars out without having your license suspended? No need to insult me. Yeah, I've driven with more than 1 beer in me, but I drive better at 0.07999999 BAC than most South Floridians drive at 0.00. If you've ever driven here, you'll know that this applies to most people. [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I would be impaired after one or two drinks. Most people would not. If you get pulled over and have had only two, then all you will need to do is pass the breath test and the field sobriety tests. If you can, then there's no reason to have to figure out what to tell the cop. If you can't then you deserve to go to jail. The problem is, studies of drinking and driving show that people grossly underestimate their level of impairment, and grossly overestimate how much they drink and still drive safely. People also underestimate how much they have been drinking. Many of those who say "two beers, officer," truly believe it, even when a breath/blood test clearly demonstrates they have had many more. Bottom line, alcohol impairs judgment. Left to make the decision on your own, one of three things will be happen: 1) You will be non-impaired, and will be safe to drive, therefore you will correctly judge yourself safe; or 2) You will be impaired and unsafe to drive, will recognize this and not drive; or 3) You will be impaired, and since judgment (part of executive function, the first brain activity to be impacted by alcohol) is also impaired, you will incorrectly judge yourself to be non-impaired and will drive. We are now back to my simple answer.
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11-20-2005, 02:59 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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If you get pulled over and have had only two, then all you will need to do is pass the breath test and the field sobriety tests. If you can, then there's no reason to have to figure out what to tell the cop. If you can't then you deserve to go to jail. [/ QUOTE ] Hello!!!!! THE [censored] POINT IS THAT THE FIELD SOBRIETY TESTS ARE WORTHLESS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE BEEN DRINKING. FAILING A FIELD SOBRIETY TEST IS NO REASON TO GO TO JAIL AND THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL BUT PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS WHILE HEAVILY INTOXICATED. Please keep your moral righteousness to yourself, especially if you are unwilling to read the very post you are responding to.
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11-20-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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[ QUOTE ] If you get pulled over and have had only two, then all you will need to do is pass the breath test and the field sobriety tests. If you can, then there's no reason to have to figure out what to tell the cop. If you can't then you deserve to go to jail. [/ QUOTE ] Hello!!!!! THE [censored] POINT IS THAT THE FIELD SOBRIETY TESTS ARE WORTHLESS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE BEEN DRINKING. FAILING A FIELD SOBRIETY TEST IS NO REASON TO GO TO JAIL AND THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL BUT PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS WHILE HEAVILY INTOXICATED. Please keep your moral righteousness to yourself, especially if you are unwilling to read the very post you are responding to. [/ QUOTE ] If you can pass field sobriety tests while intoxicated, you likely have a high tolerance for alcohol. This is not something you are born with, but something you develop over time, by drinking a lot. I see no reason to keep my moral righteousness to myself, when you put me, my wife and my children at risk when you choose to drink and drive. It makes me very sad to hear that you avoided jail, and the "loving companionship" of the cellmate you so richly deserve.
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#6
11-20-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How about you just don't drink and drive, [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] How about "it's possible to drink socially without impairing your driving ability," "[censored]?" Milo, have you ever had an alcoholic beverage? Were you automatically smashed after drinking one? How about two? If you know your limit, and you are below it, why should you have to jump through legal hoops just to get home at 2 in the morning when there are barely any cars out without having your license suspended? No need to insult me. Yeah, I've driven with more than 1 beer in me, but I drive better at 0.07999999 BAC than most South Floridians drive at 0.00. If you've ever driven here, you'll know that this applies to most people. [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I would be impaired after one or two drinks. Most people would not. If you get pulled over and have had only two, then all you will need to do is pass the breath test and the field sobriety tests. If you can, then there's no reason to have to figure out what to tell the cop. If you can't then you deserve to go to jail. The problem is, studies of drinking and driving show that people grossly underestimate their level of impairment, and grossly overestimate how much they drink and still drive safely. People also underestimate how much they have been drinking. Many of those who say "two beers, officer," truly believe it, even when a breath/blood test clearly demonstrates they have had many more. Bottom line, alcohol impairs judgment. Left to make the decision on your own, one of three things will be happen: 1) You will be non-impaired, and will be safe to drive, therefore you will correctly judge yourself safe; or 2) You will be impaired and unsafe to drive, will recognize this and not drive; or 3) You will be impaired, and since judgment (part of executive function, the first brain activity to be impacted by alcohol) is also impaired, you will incorrectly judge yourself to be non-impaired and will drive. We are now back to my simple answer. [/ QUOTE ] It's nice that you live in some lala land, but this is the real world. People are responsible for their own actions. If I want to go out, have a couple beers and drive home, guess what? THE LAW SAYS I CAN! Just because you drink a couple drinks and then drive does NOT mean you are impared (at least legally, don't give me this crap about everyone is impared from the second they drink). I can drink 2 beers and be perfectly fine. On the other hand, if I take Nyquil, I will not drive a car. 1 dose of Nyquil screws me up 10 times worse than 2 beers. Is there a law against me driving under the influence of cold medicine? No. See what a mean, it's not a lala land we live in.
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11-21-2005, 01:24 AM
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Re: The simple answer
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Is there a law against me driving under the influence of cold medicine? No. [/ QUOTE ] Driving while impaired will get you put in jail. Doesn't matter what you're impaired on. Blood test shows you're [censored] up on Nyquil: bye bye, license.
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#8
11-20-2005, 03:31 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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If you get pulled over and have had only two, then all you will need to do is pass the breath test and the field sobriety tests. If you can, then there's no reason to have to figure out what to tell the cop. [/ QUOTE ] How about "I have better things to do with my life and my time than allow myself to be subjected to these tests?" If I can pass the tests, why go through the hassle of doing so when providing the correct answer could help me avoid all that? [ QUOTE ] Many of those who say "two beers, officer," truly believe it, even when a breath/blood test clearly demonstrates they have had many more. [/ QUOTE ] I don't object to them going straight to jail, then. =) [ QUOTE ] Bottom line, too much alcohol impairs judgment. [/ QUOTE ] FYP. By your own admission, you can't have more than 2 drinks without being impaired. I can. Therefore, you don't drive after 2 drinks and I don't drive after more than <X> drinks where X = the number of drinks that make me too drunk to drive. I've called for a ride 3x when I had too much to drink. Otherwise, I walk a perfectly straight line to my car and drive safely back home. There's no reason I should be forced to be subjected to a breath test over something so trivial as rolling through a stop sign at 2 AM like I would do if my BAC were 0.00.
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11-20-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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There's no reason I should be forced to be subjected to a breath test over something so trivial as rolling through a stop sign at 2 AM like I would do if my BAC were 0.00. [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like you need to go to remdial driving class anyway if you can't stop for stop signs when sober...
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#10
11-20-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: The simple answer
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How about you just don't drink and drive, [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] I should have said this too. Bravo.
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