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Old 09-12-2005, 04:22 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Let me say first that I like to experiment with different plays and im sorry I had to reveal the result.

Preflop: My position is great loose player on the right - super tight on the right. I raise against a random hand and I expect to take advantage of MP being weak and predictable post flop

Postflop: I am not sure but I think I get good odds to steal against a rock in both streets. He either has an ace overcard or not. It's unlikely he has a 6 and he is likely folding a low PP. What I hold is not important as my purpose is to push him off and not to go to SD. I would give up on the turn if it wasnt J,A and 4 or 6.

Just going through my thought process at the time and not trying to prove I was right. (Obviously I was [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

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Preflop: you have a hand that is worse than a random hand, and even in the likely event that you will knock out the tight BB, you are OOP against a moron who will likely call you down with anything.

PostFlop: the guy is vpip=70, but now you are calling him a rock. wtf? your thought process has me utterly confused.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:24 AM
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When BB calls pf that is the last $ i put in w/out a real hand. Our isolation didn't happen and you're just wasting money. Also, judging by your rude response you seem to be in a pretty bad mood- dwindling BR due to plays like these the cause?

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This is your first poker related reply to my posts so please keep it on. As for being in a bad mood b/c of losing:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

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You have matured past a stage that many of us still struggle with.

You are no longer results oriented. Congratulations!1
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:43 AM
kidcolin kidcolin is offline
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.

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Maybe Doyle will ask him to write a chapter on this breakthrough concept is SSIII
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.

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As sarcastic as this post is, it really puts the debate in perspective, doesn't it?
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:41 AM
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PostFlop: the guy is vpip=70, but now you are calling him a rock. wtf? your thought process has me utterly confused.

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But the loose guy ... folded so I'm against the tight BB
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:42 AM
kapw7 kapw7 is offline
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.

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Maybe Doyle will ask him to write a chapter on this breakthrough concept is SSIII

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I'll be happy to accept. I need some more experimentation first
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:42 AM
kapw7 kapw7 is offline
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.

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As sarcastic as this post is, it really puts the debate in perspective, doesn't it?

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I never even dreamt that my post would be so popular!
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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Awesome! We can now coin a new phrase....

Reverse Isolation (ree-vers)(i-sol-a-shun) - raising with a weak holding for the intent of getting heads up with a better hand.

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As sarcastic as this post is, it really puts the debate in perspective, doesn't it?

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I never even dreamt that my post would be so popular!

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Some of the most popular posts are regarding "Internet poker is rigged" and "No one can beat the low-limit chasers". I wonder why that is...
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Attempt to isolate with ...junk (3/6)

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PostFlop: the guy is vpip=70, but now you are calling him a rock. wtf? your thought process has me utterly confused.

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But the loose guy ... folded so I'm against the tight BB

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If he's tight, he probably didn't call you with nothing on the flop. He's probably got either a decent hand or draw and usually isn't going anywhere.

Also, the isolation is retarded. You're out of position with a hand with little showdown value &amp; trying to get it HU against a loose passive player. PLease tell me you don't do this very often.
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