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Old 08-03-2005, 01:19 PM
eh923 eh923 is offline
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Default Re: Bubble JJ hand

I like pushing PF on this because:
- It's 4-handed, so his opening standards are probably quite low compared to at a full table.
- It's 4-handed, so the blinds are coming fast (in a turbo tourney no less).
- 700 is almost 20% of your stack, which is nothing to sneeze at.
- You have a great hand...but it's not good enough to slow-play, and it's WAY too good to be conservative.
- There are a lot of flops that will put a scare into you.
- Next person out doesn't get paid...and you can really cripple UTG.
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:45 PM
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Why would a chip leader raise a weak queen UTG?

Pushing pre-flop or calling all-in is bad pre-flop here because although you're likely going to take it down, you don't want to risk finishing 4th, when the money is so close. I call the pre-flop raise. On the flop, there's an option to raise (like Hero did) or calling with a chance of an A or K dropping forcing you to fold it to a bet on the turn. I like Hero's raise and I also like checking behind on the turn and river because I would not rule out the possibility of my opponent holding something like KQ.
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Bubble JJ hand

A lot of people have a fear of finishing 4th. That's why (a) chip leaders will raise with less than premium hands and (b) coming over the top is a good move.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:09 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Bubble JJ hand

I like this whole hand, more or less, with the exception of probably reraising him if the raise doesn't mean anhything. Nothing particularly wrong with calling here or shutting down when he calls, IMO.

PS: I vote Qxs, or KTo, just because.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:20 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Bubble JJ hand

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with the exception of probably reraising him if the raise doesn't mean anhything.

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In this case the raise did mean something, maybe not a really strong hand but the absolute worst hand he could have with that pfr is K9, and that's too loose I think.
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