Concept of Chopping Blinds

[Bremen]

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i smell a trap.

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I'd point out folding AA UTG is EV neutral as well...

[PITTM]

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chopping is all about saving rake, but if you think you have the advantage at your table, then chopping is EV-.


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Hey Granny

Isn't chopping by definition EV neutral, regardless of any advantage you may have?

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this is a pretty weak question. while i agree with grannys logic here(woah). i usually always chop if my neighbor wants to. however, chopping is not ev neutral in terms of expectation. if i am the small blind and the big blind is a weak player, i should probably be raising MOST of my holdings and outplaying them postflop, which is more +ev than just chopping the blinds. i guess its related to the economic concept of opportunity cost.

rj

[Randy_Refeld]

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if i am the small blind and the big blind is a weak player, i should probably be raising MOST of my holdings and outplaying them postflop, which is more +ev than just chopping the blinds

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You are going to outplay them enough to overcome being out of position and the rake?

[PITTM]

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if i am the small blind and the big blind is a weak player, i should probably be raising MOST of my holdings and outplaying them postflop, which is more +ev than just chopping the blinds

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You are going to outplay them enough to overcome being out of position and the rake?

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i imagine i could. im just giving the only possible justification i can think of for why not chopping would be +ev. as i said, however, i always chop, so i BARELY buy my explanation. and you still have to pay 1/2 rake at bay101 when you chop anyways.

rj

[ThinkQuick]

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when i sit down, the first thing i do is tell the people next to me that i don't chop.

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I really don't think this is neccesary and could really only upset people. You probably only have to say this when the situation happens.

[zeitgeist]

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when i sit down, the first thing i do is tell the people next to me that i don't chop.

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I really don't think this is neccesary and could really only upset people. You probably only have to say this when the situation happens.

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Actually I think one advantage to telling your neighbours as soon as you sit down that you never chop, is that it gives them fair warning.

That way when a chopping situation comes up and you call/raise/fold your blind, they'll know that you're adhering to your policy and they won't consider you to be a douchebag like another poster we could mention.

[boscoboy]

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I didn't say anything out loud, and I mumbled something under my breath about his action, and was thinking "WTF? you're an a-hole," as I glared at him.



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at a charity event?? this seems like a complete waste of your time and energy

[tinga81]

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I didn't say anything out loud, and I mumbled something under my breath about his action, and was thinking "WTF? you're an a-hole," as I glared at him.



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at a charity event?? this seems like a complete waste of your time and energy

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the players there aren't too difficult. the rake goes towards the charity, you keep what you win.

[Sponger15SB]

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I didn't say anything out loud, and I mumbled something under my breath about his action, and was thinking "WTF? you're an a-hole," as I glared at him.



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at a charity event?? this seems like a complete waste of your time and energy

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the players there aren't too difficult. the rake goes towards the charity, you keep what you win.

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Yeah its a good thing you're chopping, that damn charity would get all your money. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Mason Hellmuth]

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Here lies my problem.

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Poor table selection? Seriously, two chops in two orbits is too many.

(If you were playing high limit, I take this back.)