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Old 11-28-2005, 04:50 PM
NotReady NotReady is offline
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Errors in transcription are often the cause of mutations. What was the point here?


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I don't know. I got no problem with this statement. Transcription errors occur. Mutations occur. No sweat. Can you cite any IDers who deny this?
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:02 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: The arguement that recently convinced me of god\'s existence

That's all well and good, but it's a huge leap from believing that some powerful motive force is responsible for the order in the universe to assuming that force takes an active role or interest in the behavior of one species.
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:33 PM
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As to evolution being clearly shown, I'm not arguing about other species and whether the evidence is clear or not - I'm arguing human evolution, human fossils, and the lack of intermediaries expected from a Darwinian prediction.

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When did ID become just about humans? Behe's favorite example is the flagellum of bacteria.
And there are intermediaries, just not enough to convince people philosophically opposed to evolution of it's truth.
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:40 PM
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When did ID become just about humans?


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It's what I'm talking about. Behe can speak for himself.

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And there are intermediaries, just not enough to convince people philosophically opposed to evolution of it's truth.


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That's the debate of course. I can only say the fossil evidence I've seen purporting to show human descent from primates is less than thin.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:13 PM
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That's the debate of course. I can only say the fossil evidence I've seen purporting to show human descent from primates is less than thin.


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Been to any good museums of natural history lately?
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:36 PM
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Been to any good museums of natural history lately?

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No.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
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I can only say the fossil evidence I've seen purporting to show human descent from primates is less than thin.

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Actually NR, it's clear that you are descended from prehistoric ostriches because you like to stick your head in the sand and ignore science.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:07 PM
Rduke55 Rduke55 is offline
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Default Re: Wrong!

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When did ID become just about humans?


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It's what I'm talking about. Behe can speak for himself.

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And there are intermediaries, just not enough to convince people philosophically opposed to evolution of it's truth.


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That's the debate of course. I can only say the fossil evidence I've seen purporting to show human descent from primates is less than thin.

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How much evidence have you seen? You did say you're not a scientist.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:23 PM
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How much evidence have you seen? You did say you're not a scientist.

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Choosing to remain in a blissful state of ignorance often allows one to continue to maintain beliefs that otherwise would have to be painfully re-examined. In NR's case this wouldn't mean abandoning Christianity, but only his specific views of it.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:39 PM
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How much evidence have you seen? You did say you're not a scientist.


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I browse the net from time to time. Just wondering, since Darwinism is scientific, and since Darwin himself admitted the fossil record of his day was sorely lacking, has there ever been a precise model done of exactly what the missing links would look like and how many there would be? I mean, since Darwinism is scientific and scientific theories are judged by their capacity to predict.
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