Stupid poker terminology question - "Aces up"?

[AJo Go All In]

[maurile]

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XX "over" YY is most commonly 2 pair, not a full house; XX "full of" YY is a full house

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Precisely. I hate it when someone announces "Aces over fives," and I'm thinking "Good, my fives full beats two pair" -- until they turn their cards over to show aces full. Grrr.

[maurile]

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Is TGC just dumb?

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No, TGC has it right. "Over" doesn't even make sense to describe a full house. Is 555AA aces over fives, or fives over aces? (Aces are higher than fives, after all.)

[LetsRock]

It's "Fives over Aces"

[Spyder]

Well, I've been playing poker, in some form, since the late '60s and learned from my dad who has played since the '50s. XX over YY can mean EITHER two pair with the XX being the high pair, OR, a full house with the XX being the three-of-a-kind.

In most standard poker games, the pair in a full house is insignificant. Hold'em is different in this respect because two different people can hold the same three-of-a-kind (or, everyone if the board hits three-of-a-kind), so the pair becomes the ranking attribute of the hand.

Spyder

[Gildersneeze]

Actually, any time I've ever used the term "over" to refer to either hand, I (and everyone else I know) usually declare the overall hand name first, as in "full house, Xs over Ys," with "Xs" being the three of a kind (or in the case of two pair, the higher pair).