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Old 11-24-2003, 06:49 PM
mosch mosch is offline
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

Most sites do have disable chat, both total and for an individual, but I find that's a terrible solution. I also like to have chat on, and ninety-eight percent of the time I'm glad I have it on. Keeping a friendly repoire is a great benefit if you want to rush 50BBs off a table without scaring off the fish.
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

lol no problem Wake Up... guess I'm just a little sensitive lately... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

as I'm sure you know I was kidding, but I don't think I have a great sense of humour lol. As for CDs, lately it's been a pretty bizarre but dedicated mix of the new Lyle Lovett, The Style Council, the new Rufus Wainwright, and of course The Soundtrack of our Lives when I'm feeling veeeyerrrrrreeee aggggrrrayyyssssseeeve.
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

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he made the choice to participate in the chat so I fail to see his complaint having any validity if these are indeed the circumstances.

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I disagree. FWIW, this stuff never bothers me. But if it did, I don't think that I should be the one forced to take some action to rectify the situation. I think it's ridiculous for you to say that a complaint about abusive behavior does not "have validity" because the player has the ability to turn off viewing of the abuser's chat.
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:16 PM
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Default Nobody gets punched in the face....

Andy,

As oddjob's friend succinctly put it, "no-one gets punched in the face on the internet." This encourages people, it seems, to be assholes with abandon. AWA's, I guess. Anonymity seems to make people both very brave and very ignorant, which doesn't say much about the true nature of mankind.

Not to get completely off topic here, but what online does have going for it is proximity, primarily. The closest casino for me is 1.5 hrs away, so I was playing in clubs for a while. Then I realized that walking into a dark parking lot, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, with thousands of dollars of cash in my pocket, was probably a bad idea. Add to this the fact that there are 10 angry people watching you leave, and I decided to look for other options.

Also you choose the music, the TV station, the refreshments and the attire (or lack of it in the summer). So I decided that online was the most logical option for me.

I do love B&M games. The social aspect blows a stupid online chat box right out of the water. And the feel of the cards, the chips, the felt, all these things. Plus sometimes online is just a little too convenient if you're just a little too bored. But like I said, for me the travel and risk factor was getting to be too much, so as a result I have to put up with people being brave anonymous ethereal assholes.

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Old 11-24-2003, 07:24 PM
all_aces all_aces is offline
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

Zele,

I totally agree with you. I'm sure the other players at the table totally agreed with us as well, because they encouraged me to file the complaint.

As for it being destructive for the game, I understand what you mean, but it is destructive in a more literal sense as well, and one that concerned me almost as much as Glen's choice of words for me.

The weak players scattered. It's happened a few times now. Some win a bit, some lose a bit, but you can tell that if they stick around in a shorthanded game long enough their mistakes will catch up to them pretty darn fast. And every time Glen starts in, one leaves, then another. Then a few of us wait, one more comes, beats Glen, gets insulted and leaves.

It's killing the games. I've pointed this out to him. At first I didn't feel it was my business, but now it's killing my, well, business. He doesn't get it. And the site can suspend his chat for extreme incidents like the one I mentioned, but I don't think they can do that for just constant run-of-the-mill criticism.

It's costing them money too, though. Maybe their bottom line will prompt them to disable his chat permanently.
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

I've had this experience before. There was one guy who wouldn't stop, he called me n-----, n----- lover, coon, you name it. After a couple of these, I told him that I by the end of the session, he would be busted and I would take the majority of his money.

And I backed it up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] According to PokerTracker, I've won more off of this player specifically than from any other player.

Talk about satisfaction.

Will
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Old 11-25-2003, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: He called me a \"N-----\": online poker.

This happened to me when I was playing on the $25 NL tables at party. I can't remember the guys name, but it wasn't a particularly interesting hand. I had AA, and he had JJ. I raised, and he went all in and I called. Flop was AJx. I took it down, I think for the tune of $40-$50 from him. Then he starts going off about how he's going to kill me, I'm a N** lover, N this Nthat, I almost fell out of my chair laughing! idiot.
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Old 11-25-2003, 10:24 PM
Jim Kuhn Jim Kuhn is offline
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Default What would you have done?

Was the person that said it actually a black person? Do you get offended when the 'n' word is mentioned in a rap song? Many black people are offended if a non black person says that word but think it is cool if a black person says it. Sounds like a double standard to me.

What do you think would be the appropriate response from the poker room? I think a few days without chat would suffice. A warning could be made if the player berates others they will lose their chat forever.
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Old 11-25-2003, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: What would you have done?

No the person who said it isn't black. I know this because he said there are no black people where he lives (Aspen: "America's richest city" as he will point out again and again). So since there are no black people in Aspen, him and his friends don't see there being any problem with using the word "all the time".

I pointed out that not everybody at the site is from Aspen. He said everybody should wish they were, and went on to insult my country (Canada). He said that he's better than us Canadians.

I think he was trying to put me on tilt. I won 3k from him that session, no exxageration, in about an hour and a half.

I guess it wasn't such a bad chat we had after all. And for those who are curious, no I'm not black. But that's a pretty terrible word to call someone if you're mad at them, like it's the best insult they can come up with.

As for the best response, as I mentioned his chat was suspended for a week. I'm not sure if they have any plans to address this situation on a more permanent basis, but I'd like to see that happen.

Regards,
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