$10-20 - When do I give up?

[Tommy Angelo]

"I have pretty much bet it [the flop] before I see the cards. ;-)"

Lol! Reminds me of when online poker first started. I was playing $10-20 at Paradise. (This was before they had $20-40.) All the guys at the casino were asking me all sorts of questions about playing online. It was all so new, and therefore considered dangerous.

What about collusion? They would ask. And how can you read your opponents?

And I thought, such pesky concerns. I just wanted to be able to bet dark.



Tommy

[LarsVegas]

I actually folded the river. Probably poor, but I am not sure. The very likely possibility of losing 7.5 big bets post-flop drawing dead the whole way wasn't particularly attractive, but perhaps I do need to make these "Crying Cold Calls".

UTG called and I immediatly regretted my decision. Button showed Q4s for bare trips, UTG then shows 98s for the low end straight.

I really don't think this hand has any easy solutions, but I guess one of the advices here, to call before the flop and check-fold once it comes like this, probably is the closest I get to a reasonable, easy way to play this hand.

Lars

[Ulysses]

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I put your opponents on AQ and a lower straight based on the fact that you thought it was interesting enough to post. This is a pretty typical hand for those of us who play in these often ridiculously overaggressive games.

My main comment re: this hand is simply that if you think (correctly) that there's enough of a chance you're good on the turn to call the 3-bet, you should be committed to call the river unless the board pairs.

In these games, it's an automatic 3-bet pre-flop for me. Against many lineups, I'll cap the turn here and lead the river (and call a raise). If it then gets raised and 3-bet on the river, then it's time to think about things...

[The Gift Of Gab]

I was at the table but not involved in the hand. When you mentioned you had folded the winner I thought, "Hah! That guy is so full of it...who could possibly trust these nutcases enough to fold a hand better than the trash they showed down?"

When playing on Party, heed the X-Files: trust no one...

[joedot]

Fold a lot early, call a lot late. You know that the river will cost you more bets, so you made your decision on the turn. Your hand wasn't getting any better at that point, so either you thought it was best or did not. The river didn't change anything. Once you committed on the turn, you really should call the river. Especially with a straight or better.