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Old 09-16-2003, 05:34 PM
DrSavage DrSavage is offline
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Default Re: Probability Problem (non-poker)

You are wrong.
The probability of drawing 5 blue balls from 9 blue and 1 red ball is (9/10)*(8/9)*(7/8)*(6/7)*(5/6) = 5/10=0.5 exactly.
your (0.9)^5 applies to the case when balls would be put back into the box after each removal, which was not the case here.
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Old 09-16-2003, 06:28 PM
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Default interesting question

Don't ask

What is the smallest number of balls and how many of them blue should he have placed in the box to get that result?

I've just been talking to a number theorist friend and the interesting question is this:

What is the LARGEST number of balls and how many of them blue should he have placed in the box to get that result?

Is there a largest? Is there any solution other than the obvious one? Same question with any number 3 or more balls. (With the 2 ball version there are infinitely many solutions.)


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Old 09-16-2003, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Probability Problem (non-poker)

Here's a simple way without a computer.

Since it asks for the minimum number of balls, the number of blue balls (B) would have to be just 1 less than the number of total balls (N). It can't be like 5000 total and 4852 are blue - even though something like that could work.

Prob(5 blue balls in a row) =
B/N * B-1/N-1 * B-2/N-2 * B-3/N-3 * B-4/N-4 = .50

Substitute B=N-1...do the cancelling....and you get:

(N-5)/N = .5

N=10
B=9

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Old 09-18-2003, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Probability Problem (non-poker)

The original post asked for a solution without iteration. Guessing (or "assuming") IS iteration when you dont guess right the first time!
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Probability Problem (non-poker)

They are using a method referred to by mathematicians by the technical term "cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer".
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Probability Problem (non-poker)

those are the applied mathematicians of course.
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