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Old 07-31-2003, 10:22 AM
B-Man B-Man is offline
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Default Re: official israeli position on palestine problem

Since when does observing a fact make you racist?
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:13 PM
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There have been/will be a million suicide bombers?

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:32 PM
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"you could literally drive an a-bomb into arizona or CA or TX and take out LA or phoenix"

And what, exactly, would be bad about this?

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:36 PM
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"you could literally drive an a-bomb into arizona or CA or TX and take out LA or phoenix"

Hasn't anyone seen Day 2 of 24 - they already did! Luckily Jack saved the day.

(It's real to me, ok?)
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Old 07-31-2003, 02:41 PM
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It's fine if Israel creates the refugees, but a problem if the refugees exercise their legal and moral right to go home. It's fine for Israel to use violence to conquer all Palestine, but wrong for the Palestinians to even "dream" of having their country back. This because "all cultures aren't equal," Palestinians being particularly loathesome because 100 suicide bombings over 10 years that have killed a fraction of the IDF's civilian death toll proves that Palestinians, on the whole, "are used to using suicide bombings to try to solve their differences with others."

Why don't you just admit that you'rea neo-nazi racial supremacist and get on with it?

"Let me declare without hyperbole that the violence of the apartheid regime, as inhuman as it was, “was a picnic” (in the words of Archbishop Desmond Tutu) in comparison with the utter brutality of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. ...
We did not see tanks with guns blazing protecting armoured bulldozers reducing homes and bones to dust.

We did not see helicopter gunships “taking out” militants with their families, children and their homes with calculated precision!

In South Africa we did not see the destruction by bombing of apartment blocks such as Rafah in the Gaza Strip where children were sleeping. We did not see town centres such as Jenin and Ramallah razed to the ground reminiscent of the bloody suppression of the Jewish uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto during the Second World War. ...

Human beings when oppressed tend, sooner or later, to struggle for freedom. Repression of that just struggle leads to resistance. Often the more brutal the repression the more intense the resistance. The repressed are demonised as terrorists to justify ever-greater violations of their rights. We have the absurdity that the victims are blamed for the violence meted out against them. Both Apartheid and Israel are prime examples of terrorist states blaming the victims!"

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Forestry, South Africa
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Old 07-31-2003, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: official israeli position on palestine problem

I wasn't aware of any facts that M(oron) observed.
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Old 07-31-2003, 04:30 PM
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Israel is not occupying "Palestine." Until the terrorists acknowledge that, there can not be peace.

Israel is occupying the West Bank and Gaza. Regardless of who has a stronger argument/moral right to these areas, practically speaking, Israel needs to cede these areas to the Palestinians for an independent state (while of course taking reasonable security measures for itself). The Palestinians need to renounce terrorism and recognize Israel's right to exist; they need to give up on their dream of pushing Israel into the sea.

Your comparison of Israel's occupation to the Holocaust is outrageous and offensive. When Israel starts setting up concentration camps for the purpose of committing genocide against the Palestinians, maybe then its actions can be discussed in the same sentence as the Holocaust. Until then, save the hyperbole for your fellow racists and anti-semites.
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Old 07-31-2003, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: official israeli position on palestine problem

Prior to middle of last century there was no culture of suicide bombing.

A little historical perspective and study would not hurt.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:24 PM
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Default Who wants peace

pieces from today's news:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...151726&e=2

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/31...ge_arabs030731
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0731/p01s03-wome.html


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Old 07-31-2003, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Who wants peace

what do u expect everyone knows arabs (and thus arab women) are subhuman.
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