Black Jack Auto-Play ??

[GrannyMae]

As I mentioned in my earlier post, you can expect to lose more hands in BJ than you win, especially as the length of your session grows.


first, thx all for the input. second, i understand this concept of course bull, but as a bonus clearing method (if it is allowed), is it not a viable option?

if we call the house edge 2%, and realize that i got a $200 bonus for depositing $50, then i'm happy to have the 2% shrinkage to clear my money.

EDIT: 5% house edge is correct online?

the bonus is so obscene that it just seems like a good way to clear it.
(factoring in the reality that i am completely done with the site, and just want to get the dollars out FAST)

[GrannyMae]

dink,

the grid looks complicated to me, and before i try to figure out how to change the settings i wanted to as a basic auto-play question.

do you know if these expert strategy auto-plays do NOT take insurance? i know that i should never take it, but i'm wondering if the house would program this into auto-play, or try and extract some dollars by having the default set to taking it on all 20's or strong hands.

thx

[bull7]

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first, thx all for the input. second, i understand this concept of course bull, but as a bonus clearing method (if it is allowed), is it not a viable option?

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It might be Granny, for that limited purpose. It wouldn't be a good general stategy. As I said before, I don't think BJ play counts toward the bonus. If I am in error, please let me know, as I would like to play BJ to complete the bonus requirements too.

BTW, how did the HU match with Lorinda go? I haven't heard about the outcome of the match and haven't seen her on this forum in awhile. Hope you didn't run her off as part of a losing bet.

[GrannyMae]

here are the terms on clearing the bonus. looks like blackjack is ok.


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[dink]

I am pretty sure the autoplay doesn't include insurance

the only change I make to their BS is the double 9 vs 3, I make it a hit, the rest is good enough.

there are quite a few casinos that have good bonuses and autoplay, get into it

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[dink]

But that is what happens in online blackjack and that is what we are talking about.

very few casinos online don't shuffle after every hand and the ones who do have like eight decks.

counting online only helps you make some marginal playing decisions like 16 x 10, you can vary your playing strategy according to what your 16 is made up of, nat all 16's are alike.

dink

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[dink]

contrary to popular belief there are a few online casinos with such favourable rules (single deck, checking for bj with a ten up, early surrender, draw to split aces)that by playing perfect BS you have a very slight edge, (about .2 of one percent) but you do have an advantage and that is without adjusting your play for the cards you see.

When these casinos offer a deposit bonus, it can be very profitable.

dink
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[GrannyMae]

am pretty sure the autoplay doesn't include insurance

before you answered this, i did a few 10 play test runs. then earlier i did 100 hands with a result of +35, then i let it go for 500, and i had a result of -60.

it certainly did not seem to have any house edges in the default, so i am confident in what i saw. when the bonus is cleared (soon thanks to auto-play), i'll be out of there.

finally, i read that the house edge is only 1.3% with this particular casino. that is great. what that tells me is that a true whore should be looking for big overlay bonuses like this one, swoop in and turn the auto play on, then move on.

i can expect to lose only a nominal amount by playing it off this way. also, sometimes i will get lucky and end up winning some money. even a bad swing will make a bonus like this STILL a very profitable excursion.

like ron popiel says... "set it &amp; forget it" !
i watched a wpt tape while the 500 ran


i'll be on the lookout for more of these.

[dink]

grannster

try
fortune room
royal vegas
and
orbital casino

they all have autoplay and they have some pretty good bonuses, just check the conditions and see if BJ is still allowed? It was when I played there.

cheers
dink
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[Terry]

Hi Granny,

Your post about “auto play” piqued my interest so I downloaded the software and had a little look. Since I’m on a (slow) dial up connection I didn’t really get very far but FWIW to you, here are my observations.

I looked at the Deuces Wild video poker game. From a limited observation it does appear that the autoplay feature is playing the hands correctly – the problem comes in in that it is not a full pay game returning over 100%, but rather pays 96.76%. I didn’t look at the Jacks or Better due to the download time but I would assume that if they haven’t messed with the rest of the pay table (you said it was 9/6), it would be OK. Just keep in mind that on video poker, you expect to lose at a pretty high hourly rate in the short run, only getting up to speed when you finally hit the royal.

I downloaded the Vegas strip BJ game since it had the best rules but kept getting a message that it was “unavailable, please try back later.” Judging from the game I did see, I would tend to say that this site was designed by people with some sophistication regarding games and that the BJ basic strategy in the autoplay feature is probably right. There’s really no reason for them to give bad information if they’re in the business for the long run.

That said, I’ve also done a bit of research regarding online (non-poker) casinos. I’ve found that many of them do share information on scammers and bonus chasers, as well as on winning players on the sites that offer beatable games. Some of the sites just share among their own software group but there are also services that provide the information for anyone who cares to subscribe. I would expect that those who just deposit, crank up autoplay, and cash out as soon as they’ve played enough to qualify for the bonus will sooner or later find that their action is being declined by casinos on the first visit.

As for the beatable games, well, they know which games they are, and the software is perfectly capable of detecting winning play; skilled players have had their accounts closed. That solves the mystery of why the internet casinos aren’t jam packed full of skilled players; in a B&amp;M casino it’s possible to slip through the cracks for a while, and it’s also possible that they have looked at your play and decided that you’re not as good as you think you are, but online there is no camouflage – if you make the right play every time it will be detected.

In conclusion, I guess the only thing I’ve really said here is that it is my somewhat educated opinion that these are limited opportunities, therefore, get it while you can. [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]