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  #11  
Old 12-05-2005, 08:49 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

Nice flop bet, and I'd lead the turn and fold to a raise. If he calls my 2/3 pot turn bet then I check and call a small river bet, fold to a larger one.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:46 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

Scuba! It's Q5s, man.

I agree with adanthar on this one, I would probably raise pf. Against a LAG or fish I'd just fold.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:57 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

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pinneapple, I know you know you were the one in this hand, but I think the only real question is the river call, not the rest of the play.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

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pinneapple, I know you know you were the one in this hand, but I think the only real question is the river call, not the rest of the play.

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I was? What happened??? I don't remember crap when I 8-table...
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:04 PM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

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pinneapple, I know you know you were the one in this hand, but I think the only real question is the river call, not the rest of the play.

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Ummm... it was everyone else posting who questioned your other plays.

FWIW, I agree with Lacky and others that if you are going to stay in the hand at all, you have to bet the turn. I just see no reason to stay in, esp. if it was against me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:01 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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again, try not to give up the lead in a hand. when you check the turn, you are saying "I dont have an A, hell, I might not of had anything and was hoping to steal, but i'm gonna give up now" so then his turn bet doesnt mean anything either.

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i've read at least 5 posts from good posters who have said things like this in the last week.

i will paraphrase:

your hand is pretty good. when you check, villain thinks your hand is bad, so he will bet with bad hands to try to steal the pot. for some reason you don't want that to happen [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

inducing bluffs is good
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:04 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

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pinneapple, I know you know you were the one in this hand, but I think the only real question is the river call, not the rest of the play.

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i could go either way on completing pre-flop vs raising, but i agree the flop and turn are the best way to play. river is tough, but i call vs 2+2 and curse if he has a 6. i play the whole thing the same.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:06 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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again, try not to give up the lead in a hand. when you check the turn, you are saying "I dont have an A, hell, I might not of had anything and was hoping to steal, but i'm gonna give up now" so then his turn bet doesnt mean anything either.

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i've read at least 5 posts from good posters who have said things like this in the last week.

i will paraphrase:

your hand is pretty good. when you check, villain thinks your hand is bad, so he will bet with bad hands to try to steal the pot. for some reason you don't want that to happen [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

inducing bluffs is good

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I said this above...but you took it out of context. I think scuba was concerned about his turn call so I simply said "when you check the turn, villain's bet doesnt mean any strength per se, because, to him, it appears you stabbed at the pot on the flop and are now giving up on the turn."

Whether or not you check this turn is a matter of personal preference but i think betting again is good too. depends on opposition. FWIW, I like the way scuba played this.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:31 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

this is a post from lacky, and it's not out of context - it's a whole post.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Play from the blinds: Q5o

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You took your shot on the flop and it didn't work. Why would you put any more money in?

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pinneapple, I know you know you were the one in this hand, but I think the only real question is the river call, not the rest of the play.

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I was? What happened???

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You checked your A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB.
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