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Old 12-05-2005, 07:17 PM
mojobluesman mojobluesman is offline
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Default Re: Question about Isolation Moves

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dump small pairs always

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I see this a lot. There is nothing wrong with blind-stealing or isolating bad players with small pairs.

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Word to that. A few thousand hands of 6max play really help you appreciate the value of small pairs in these spots.

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But do you have to limit it to situations where you know the bonds are kind of tight and will fold?

I hate holding 22, 33, 44, 55, 66 in a pot I raised against 2-3 opponents instead of just 1!
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Question about Isolation Moves

Let's say you have 66. A fish limps, you raise from the button hoping to isolate, but sadly the BB calls. No big deal. You already have a made hand, whereas they have to hit the flop to beat you, which is not easy to do. Your raise also should buy you some fold equity.

Yeah sure, if you raise with 55 or somesuch and show it down, you'll often end up looking foolish when BB takes the pot with his 3rd pair of split 7s, but in the long run I'm pretty confident that this play shows a profit.

Look at it this way. You would definitely open-raise 44 on the button. If both blinds call, your situation is pretty much the same as the situation where you try an isolation play. In fact, the isolation play is a little better since the limper just open-limped whereas when you open-raise two players are semi-coldcalling.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:24 PM
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Often I will limp behind with a hand like 33 or even 77 but raise a hand like K10. 33 really doesn't have any more showdown power than J7 but it is great at winning big pots infrequently. Same with A6s. These are hands I love playing against bad opponents but not always for a raise.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Question about Isolation Moves

Got ya! Thanks.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:35 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Question about Isolation Moves

What's missing from this conversation? How about some postflop reads?

If the blinds are weak-tight/passive postflop, I don't mind them being in the pot with me because I have position and can often get a free card or two if I think I need it (or a free showdown). Against weak-tight players, I can auto-bet the flop in position and often take the pot down. If I don't take the pot down, I can usually narrow their hand ranges.

Aggro and loose villains in the blinds make blinds steals significantly more difficult.
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