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Old 12-01-2005, 02:36 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: 33$ hand

I feel strongly that your chips should be moving into the middle before the flop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:43 PM
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I feel strongly that your chips should be moving into the middle before the flop.

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oh yeah, well i strong agree!
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:49 PM
bennies bennies is offline
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Default Re: 33$ hand

Fine, barf at my line if you must [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

For the record (who gives a dam) I push this everytime myself. Still I want to make an argument for calling and checkpushing any non-A flop. Feel free to make counter-ARGUMENTS [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] .


If a non-A flop comes, the two lines are similar. 80% of the time villain will c-bet and pot commit himself to call our push.

If flop comes with an A, Hero check-folds and looses 400 chips. This sucks, but it's better than going broke, and we're likely behind at this point. Basically, the only hands we beat are KQ, 66-88. Unless villain is LAG everything else only gives us two outs for the set.

By the way, I assume we have no preflop FE.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:17 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: 33$ hand

villain may be raising a lot of hands that look nothing like KQ/66/etc. folding on an A high flop is bad.

i also like the preF push.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 33$ hand

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Fine, barf at my line if you must [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

For the record (who gives a dam) I push this everytime myself. Still I want to make an argument for calling and checkpushing any non-A flop. Feel free to make counter-ARGUMENTS [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] .


If a non-A flop comes, the two lines are similar. 80% of the time villain will c-bet and pot commit himself to call our push.

If flop comes with an A, Hero check-folds and looses 400 chips. This sucks, but it's better than going broke, and we're likely behind at this point. Basically, the only hands we beat are KQ, 66-88. Unless villain is LAG everything else only gives us two outs for the set.

By the way, I assume we have no preflop FE.

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This presupposes that villain is c-betting when he misses, but only betting an A high flop with an A. I think you're out thinking yourself here.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:44 AM
bennies bennies is offline
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Default Re: 33$ hand

That's a good answer. Ok. Maybe if villain was utg my range for him would be more adequate (and thus my line would have more merit).
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