NL 100, fold the premium draw on the flop?

[rachelwxm]

Good analysis. With those numbers, do you think a call is good option here too? My exp is people rarely fold to a push once he 3 bet. I call and if flush hit on turn he might pay me off anyway and I can fold if he bets big and turn misses.

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Good analysis. With those numbers, do you think a call is good option here too? My exp is people rarely fold to a push once he 3 bet. I call and if flush hit on turn he might pay me off anyway and I can fold if he bets big and turn misses.

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Knowing this (definition of a rock):

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UTG is decent, extremely tight and aggressive postflop. 13/4/3.0.

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I think there is a low probability that you get paid off when you hit which is why I think it is a push or fold.

[beavens]

i like a flop push here. so many outs - but don't listen to me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[rachelwxm]

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I think there is a low probability that you get paid off when you hit which is why I think it is a push or fold.

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I think you got 1:3 pot odds to peel one card on the turn. I think given implied odds, it's +EV but not sure if its better than pushing. Assuming he has 2 pair or better, what hands do you think he fold to a push?

[scdavis0]

jack it up pre flop like you shoulda and the hand plays itself

[Riverman]

Just put the rest in

[4_2_it]

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I think there is a low probability that you get paid off when you hit which is why I think it is a push or fold.

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I think you got 1:3 pot odds to peel one card on the turn. I think given implied odds, it's +EV but not sure if its better than pushing. Assuming he has 2 pair or better, what hands do you think he fold to a push?

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If he has 2-pr or better, he's calling your flop push. Maybe a super weak-tighty lays down 89, but I think 2-pr or better is committed.

What if the J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is the turn card? Hero pushes, now, most TAGs will rightly deduce that hero's flop call was chasing the flush and now he wants to be paid on the turn. A set (certainly AA) might make a marginal call to draw to the boat, but two pair probably folds.

[Guin]

I believe with the reraise on the flop that you disguised the flush draw quite well that you could just call this situation. If a flush hits on the turn bet 1/4 pot which will look like a feeler bet and then 1/2 pot river.

If no flush hits then check / call is probably good to see if you can hit on river. I don't see how this is worse than pushing flop except that you might not have to lose your entire stack... A8 and A9 are not in the range of hands that I would expect from someone this tight... most likely AK or set.

Guin

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A8 and A9 are not in the range of hands that I would expect from someone this tight... most likely AK or set.


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He got a free play in the big blind...