2 sets not paid off

[the machine]

oh i do i was just curious if this was most peoples standard lines in these situations

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playing kinda rockish

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that is all

[lefty rosen]

Hand two is a case of premature ejaculation. What the fluck were you doing there? You have to know at least one bullet was in play if not two. Let the original raiser bet out as he either has a monster or ace and face either way he bets you either trap on the turn or flop. Don't know what you were thinking. Hand one was too strong too but not nearly as bad as 2 . Two could have been a full stack that you over zealously tossed away...... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Hoopster81]

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Two could have been a full stack that you over zealously tossed away......

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You're kidding right? What folds to his flop bet that would give Hero that much action. No, bet the flop is right and get action from AK/AQ or two pair, If no one has [censored] - thats the way the cookie crumbles.

[Godfather80]

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Two could have been a full stack that you over zealously tossed away......

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You're kidding right? What folds to his flop bet that would give Hero that much action. No, bet the flop is right and get action from AK/AQ or two pair, If no one has [censored] - thats the way the cookie crumbles.

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While I agree that checkraising the flop is a much better line than leading in hand two, I must agree with Hoopster on the "stacking potential" here. If nobody was gonna play for Hero's UTG lead, then nobody was gonna get stacked by Hero's checkraise.

[MTBlue]

You've got to realize that your stack is only 3x the pot in both hands. Their implied odds are only good for one card at best even with the best draws. Your goal in both hands should be to double up and not to worry much about the draws. Hand one the board is draw heavy but you are heads up and the villain likely doesn't have a made hand. Why would you want to bet enough so a rational person doesn't call with a draw and the person has little chance of having a hand? Check the flop and the guy will look you up with a pair of tens for your entire stack. If a scare card hits, bet you don't have enough money back to be overly concerned.

Hand two 5 people saw the flop and you think none of them has an ace that they are going to bet? They bet you raise. They almost have to call with the odds they're getting you double up. Your hands have huge redraws if the draws hit and realistically you don't have enough money back to worry about it. If you had a 1000 back and were planning on going broke with the hand then bet the pot. If you have 100 back try to get the other guy to bet and then move all-in b/c he is going to be pot stuck.

[MTBlue]

If you check the flop people will give you action with worse hands. The reason that people say bet the flop is b/c if you don't playing with 100BB you aren't going to get a stack. If you are playing with 3x the pot in your stack you need to get two bets in. It doesn't matter what streets they are on and check calling the flop isn't a disaster.

[lefty rosen]

a guy threw away AJ, he definately bets into the flop semi hard to hard. He gets that guy for a decent amount on the flop or turn. You want to know how many guys tilt and go all in when they know they are beat but the pot is a full stack or better?

[lefty rosen]

Yeah thats what I said, but not as elequently. I mean you have to use your head. With that many aces there is always a weak ace in play at least one of them will bet this flop....