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Old 11-26-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

This makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

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This makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain.

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I like doing it...keeps me sharp. You don't get 2k+ posts not liking it.
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

Your flop equity is huge, so jamming is obvious. Turn is close, because there are still 4 players in, a bet would be close to +EV, but it's close and I would probably puss out and check behind as well. On the river, its a definite raise. Any Jack is calling two cold here.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

Don't go for overcalls on the river. The turn check through makes it look like we have some draws here based on that flop cap, so raise here, since the big draw has come in. Straights will call, and flushes will 3 bet, and we'll make a load of money.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:49 AM
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Raise that river. There are [censored] loads of hands that will call two cold and maybe even raise.

The rest is super.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

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...second maybe im way off base here and confused but I thought the ideal of raising your flush draws was to get a freecard if the turn comes bad and build a pot in case you make you flush. By 3 betting it your not really getting a free card do you really think you aces are good I think your out kicked at best here.

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Read Jaxup's responses. This is more about an equity edge with our flushdraw than trying for a free card (which we did get, BTW [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] )

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Old 11-26-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

Bet the turn.
Raise the river.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

First of all against this many limpers, I raise preflop. I raise for value and I raise to steal the button if possible.

The flop is great.

Here's the reason I really hate your river call. You could not only be up against a Jack, but with that action on the flop and then everyone checking through on the turn I think there's a good chance you're up against another flush. So raise it baby.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

Yeah, if you don't take it you're a fool. Raise da river.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw on the turn... take the free card?

*grunch*

I think this is the perfect hand to take the free-card on. With a capped flop there is a real risk of a turn check-raise by any loose Jacks out, 2 pairs or trips.

The river as I think you must already know is a raise every time. Although SSHE talks about going for overcalls this is not the spot to do it. With so many high cards out and the good chance of a straight or even a lower flush being held, then raising could get you called and then 3 bet which puts you in happy street!
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