i think im bleeding chips

[flawless_victory]

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Agreed with Surf. Don't expect a tough player to stop bluffing just because you called the turn. If he's decided to bluff at this board (and what a bluff-friendly board it is!), he'll keep firing I think.


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i disagree.
if hes tough, he knows u aint flushing.
what im saying the only possible draws are gutshot wheel draws and Ahigh is often calling a riv bet anyway. this guy knows that. if he bets the river, he will have u beat the majority of the time.
that said, id just fold the turn here until you have some history w/ this guy that makes u think he is really trying to outplay u or whatever. if the guy has been using position alot on these kind of boards i am gonna threebet the flop and keep betting or checkcall to showdown and he can prove it.
i would also peel the flop (and feel good about my hand if i caught T), but i dont like that turn call and i like a river call on a blank even less.

[TStoneMBD]

the game is 25/50 if that helps describe the opponent any better. there are currently no higher limit games going.

[flawless_victory]

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the game is 25/50 if that helps describe the opponent any better. there are currently no higher limit games going.

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dude, next time just say "bump"

[TStoneMBD]

i didnt even know it dropped off the page. i checked "my posts" sorry for the bump.

[Schneids]

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Agreed with Surf. Don't expect a tough player to stop bluffing just because you called the turn. If he's decided to bluff at this board (and what a bluff-friendly board it is!), he'll keep firing I think.


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i disagree.
if hes tough, he knows u aint flushing.
what im saying the only possible draws are gutshot wheel draws and Ahigh is often calling a riv bet anyway. this guy knows that. if he bets the river, he will have u beat the majority of the time.
that said, id just fold the turn here until you have some history w/ this guy that makes u think he is really trying to outplay u or whatever. if the guy has been using position alot on these kind of boards i am gonna threebet the flop and keep betting or checkcall to showdown and he can prove it.
i would also peel the flop (and feel good about my hand if i caught T), but i dont like that turn call and i like a river call on a blank even less.

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I agree with flawless victory.

[brazilio]

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stop folding your BB against SB steals.

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[Surfbullet]

I may not have articulated my point correctly - against *bad* LAGs I don't think we can call the turn expecting him to check through the river. Against good, tough players i'd fold the turn unless i had reason to believe he was taking shots at me...he should value bet the river with any pair hoping for an A-hi calldown and I'm not going to pay him off.

Surf