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Meh? I don't think it's a big deal. As long as people who still desire to hold long, monogamous relationships are still free to do so, I don't see the problem.
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have created fictional utopias where sex with everyone is the norm [/ QUOTE ] There are certain groups of monkeys that do this every morning as part of the group's normal daily routine. Be a monkey. |
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The second wave of kibbutzim in Israel which was socialist in nature had a bit of this character. Many kids were supposedly of uncertain paternity. [/ QUOTE ] No offence, but you have absolutely no idea with regard to what you're talking about. There was never such thing as "uncertain paternity" at any kibutz. You are confusing the fact that there was the idea of bringing up children without them being particularly attached to their parents, i.e, many times kids were not allowed to spend more than very few hours a day with their parents, they slept in different places and basically had to live their whole daily life seperated from their parents, and were handled by whoever had the job of taking care of the children _as a group_. The point is, that those arrangement very rarely worked in reality, because many parents obviously insisted on spending more time with their kids, and naturally, this whole crazy idea faild completely at some point. But all this has absolutely nothing to do with "uncertain paternity", whatever that means. Any kid that was born in any kibutz knew exactly who his/her parents are, and had daily relationship with them. With regard to sex in general, the norms in the kibutz were not any different than the norms in any other normal non-kibutz society. People got married, lived in couples, brought children basically only as married couples, etc, etc. Sex life in kibutz, in general, was no different in essence than sex life in a city or wherever. Many kibutzes were actually quite conservative in many senses. |
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