Gigabet Hand. I just don't know.

[Jman28]

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i think the reason that jman posted this (and what stands out) is that villain has half his stack in the pot and is getting 4:1 for a river call.


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5:1, but yeah. I don't know how reasonable it is to assume that the villain will fold any hand that beats Gigabet's hand with those odds and that flop. If Gig believe's he's ahead, I prefer a check/call. Edit: Or a turn check raise.

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I don't necessarily think Giga thinks he is ahead here, thus the bet. He has somewhat represented a trapping hand, and if the opponent only has a marginal hand, he probably isn't risking his tourney life (he would have very few chips left), regardless of the odds he's getting. So if Giga checks, and his opponent goes all in, does Giga call? I think no.

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So you're saying that Giga called the turn bet believing he was behind?

Not disagreeing, just wondering.

[gumpzilla]

This is obviously a pretty difficult hand to discuss without some sense for how button has been playing. If he runs bluffs a lot when checked to, which seems like you can expect it reasonably often in a shorthanded tournament, then I think this is a pretty good course of action. Button not 4-betting PF might also be meaningful, inasmuch as he might do so when he has a quality holding. All this is speculation, but I don't really see a sensible way to analyze this without that kind of information, so I'll just guess. I've definitely seen a surprisingly large number of people that can make that fold on the end, but of course he was probably behind. So why not let him bet again? The 3rd barrel is pretty hard to fire, so maybe he's not going to do it.

I have notes on some opponents that say "seems to completely ignore pot odds" and on others "folds too often when put all in". On some opponents, I have both these notes, and I make this play.

[Jman28]

Here's the only way I can understand it:

On the turn, Gigabet puts the villain on overcards. He calls and pushes the river because he believes AT folds to his push and that villain has AT+ enough that it is worthwhile to take the whole pot in those cases and sacrifice making 20k more chips the times villain pushes with a bluff.

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On the turn, Gigabet puts the villain on overcards. He calls and pushes the river because he believes AT folds to his push and that villain has AT+ enough that it is worthwhile to take the whole pot in those cases and sacrifice making 20k more chips the times villain pushes with a bluff.

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Without knowing any table dynamics or reads that gig has on villian and gigs read on villians read on gig, I'd probably think that the large turn overbet made him put him on overs. But Gigabet probably figured that it would be much easier to move him off of his hand on the river with no cards to come, especially if a scare card came.

I'd be interested in the action if an ace fell on the river.