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Old 11-16-2005, 11:50 PM
thejameser thejameser is offline
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Default Re: Another JJ hand Entity and I talked about

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i may have foregone a cap here pf to see if the 23/12 craps his pants and calls or boldy caps. no big deal either way.

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There are two players yet to act.

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i should pay more attention. cap. the real decision is the river, though.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:09 AM
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check/fold. if you mention 99 or 88 again i will kill you
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:13 AM
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I bluff too much so I'd bet fold. Check-folding is prob better though.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:32 AM
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check/fold. if you mention 99 or 88 again i will kill you

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:41 AM
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Check and hope he checks behind. If he bets the river I prolly fold
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Another JJ hand Entity and I talked about

Unless he has a high ftrb% or a low wtsd% (and the sample size is fairly big) I'd check/fold.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Another JJ hand Entity and I talked about

Hmmm it's too hard to put this bad a player on a hand. I think I'm going to check/call here. May not be right but I would question myself if I didn't see what he had.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Another JJ hand Entity and I talked about

I'm really astonished that everyone is saying check/fold.

This guy has a 17% preflop for a full ring game. I am not the expert on full ring stats that many of you are, but is that not insanely high? His threebetting range here is likely very wide because according to his stats he probably isn't very position aware or player aware, so he doesn't know that the initial raiser has a very narrow and strong range of hands like we do. Since he has a fairly high AF, I think we can assume that we are getting raised by most better hands before the river. I would check his WTSD, if it's high I'm definitely betting here. If it's very low check/folding is probably correct, but instinctively I would bet this against this player.

Maybe I am biased because I mainly play shorthanded these days.
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:26 AM
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I'm really astonished that everyone is saying check/fold.

This guy has a 17% preflop for a full ring game. I am not the expert on full ring stats that many of you are, but is that not insanely high? His threebetting range here is likely very wide because according to his stats he probably isn't very position aware or player aware, so he doesn't know that the initial raiser has a very narrow and strong range of hands like we do. Since he has a fairly high AF, I think we can assume that we are getting raised by most better hands before the river. I would check his WTSD, if it's high I'm definitely betting here. If it's very low check/folding is probably correct, but instinctively I would bet this against this player.

Maybe I am biased because I mainly play shorthanded these days.

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you're looking at the wrong person
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:27 AM
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I'm really astonished that everyone is saying check/fold.

This guy has a 17% preflop for a full ring game. I am not the expert on full ring stats that many of you are, but is that not insanely high? His threebetting range here is likely very wide because according to his stats he probably isn't very position aware or player aware, so he doesn't know that the initial raiser has a very narrow and strong range of hands like we do. Since he has a fairly high AF, I think we can assume that we are getting raised by most better hands before the river. I would check his WTSD, if it's high I'm definitely betting here. If it's very low check/folding is probably correct, but instinctively I would bet this against this player.

Maybe I am biased because I mainly play shorthanded these days.

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It sounds like you confused the villains. I'm sorry if that was my fault.
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