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  #11  
Old 11-15-2005, 07:02 PM
the machine the machine is offline
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

no one raised pre flop thats the problem here and its such a weak flop. guarantee any bet here all 5 others fold. my question is what people like on a river bet with 1.45 in the pot. how often do you jam a 5$ bet in and how often do you go 2/3. i understand to bet all streets but 100% positive i bet the flop i dont get the dollar on the river. with that said what does everyone like for a bet on the river
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

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BTW - It gets interesting when you bet with quads and get raised. I will have to see if I can find the hands where that happened to me.

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Here's one:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($15.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($98)
UTG ($270.61)
UTG+1 ($135.05)
MP1 ($135.65)
Hero ($100)
MP3 ($100.60)
CO ($147.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($28.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $18.

River: ($88.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls $58 (All-In).

Final Pot: $206.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Kd Ac (one pair, nines).
Hero has 9c 9h (four of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $204.50. UTG wins $2. </font>
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:31 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

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no one raised pre flop thats the problem here and its such a weak flop. guarantee any bet here all 5 others fold.

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you obviously do not have experience in SSNL
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:14 PM
Percula Percula is offline
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

Fast playing big hands is the new slow play...
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:54 PM
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yeah obviously. if you want to respond to my post dont try to berate my play. tell me how much you bet on the river and stop wasting my time reading this pointless post. thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:57 PM
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yeah obviously. if you want to respond to my post dont try to berate my play. tell me how much you bet on the river and stop wasting my time reading this pointless post. thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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your post is pointless

it doesnt matter how much you bet on the river, it won't affect your outcomes in the long run at all

however, your ridiculous slowplay is costing you a lot over the long run. like, A LOT.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:08 PM
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maybe your not understanding what im saying here. or maybe you do since you sat at the table for 2 hours. there is lots of limp folding unless someone hits a monster tptk or 2 pair i watched folds for 90 mins and dragged small pots with nothing so i think my cheks are correct in this situation. how much do i make if i bet the flop MP2, MP3, CO, button and SB fold, please since im so unexpirenced at this please let me know. once again i will say this, if the game is agressive or people who like to bluff alot i bet and hope a raise pops off. with a very passive table there is no equity to a bet since i know for a fact they will all fold. and one more time i will say how much would you bet on the river, and if you want to respond to that question then please do if not then dont post.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:11 PM
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maybe your not understanding what im saying here. or maybe you do since you sat at the table for 2 hours. there is lots of limp folding unless someone hits a monster tptk or 2 pair i watched folds for 90 mins and dragged small pots with nothing so i think my cheks are correct in this situation. how much do i make if i bet the flop MP2, MP3, CO, button and SB fold, please since im so unexpirenced at this please let me know. once again i will say this, if the game is agressive or people who like to bluff alot i bet and hope a raise pops off. with a very passive table there is no equity to a bet since i know for a fact they will all fold. and one more time i will say how much would you bet on the river, and if you want to respond to that question then please do if not then dont post.

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perhaps you should've just switched tables [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:17 PM
whittiphil whittiphil is offline
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

I just make sure I flop quads and the other guy flops top full house:

STAGE #225838199: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2005-11-14 21:41:32 (ET)
Table: SUNCREST DR. (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BLUEMEDS ($180.52 in chips)
Seat 2 - GARFIELD007 ($56.27 in chips)
Seat 4 - JOHNETEQUILA ($57.57 in chips)
Seat 5 - STEELCITY ($118.40 in chips)
Seat 6 - GFXHIL ($69.22 in chips)
Seat 8 - PWHITTINGTON ($101.64 in chips)
GARFIELD007 - Posts small blind $0.50
JOHNETEQUILA - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to PWHITTINGTON [10s 10h]
STEELCITY - Folds
GFXHIL - Folds
PWHITTINGTON - Raises $4 to $4
BLUEMEDS - Folds
GARFIELD007 - Calls $3.50
JOHNETEQUILA - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 10d 10c]
GARFIELD007 - Checks
PWHITTINGTON - Bets $4
GARFIELD007 - Calls $4
*** TURN *** [Qc 10d 10c] [2d]
GARFIELD007 - Checks
PWHITTINGTON - Bets $6
GARFIELD007 - Calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Qc 10d 10c 2d] [9s]
GARFIELD007 - Checks
PWHITTINGTON - Bets $16
GARFIELD007 - All-In(Raise) $42.27 to $42.27
PWHITTINGTON - Calls $26.27
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GARFIELD007 - Shows [Qd Qs] (Full house, queens full of tens)
PWHITTINGTON - Shows [10s 10h] (Four of a kind, tens)
PWHITTINGTON Collects $110.54 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($113.54) | Rake ($3)
Board [Qc 10d 10c 2d 9s]
Seat 1: BLUEMEDS (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: GARFIELD007 (small blind) HI:lost with Full house, queens full of tens [Qd Qs - P:Qs,P:Qd,B:Qc,B:10d,B:10c]
Seat 4: JOHNETEQUILA (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: STEELCITY Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: GFXHIL Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: PWHITTINGTON won Total ($110.54) HI$110.54) with Four of a kind, tens [10s 10h - P:10s,P:10h,B:10d,B:10c,B:Qc]
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: maximum top quad value

it was an easy table though. was making good money but didnt want to push everyone out here. thats y i wanted to know if people like the pot being jammed or a value bet
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