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11-13-2005, 12:28 AM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
Certainly you are right, but most of the red states are dominated by conservative christians and 'love it or leave it' patriots. No Democrat will ever get those votes. Now --- Ohio, New Mexico, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missiouri ---those states are centrist and this is where your point comes most into play.
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11-13-2005, 01:02 AM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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Certainly you are right, but most of the red states are dominated by conservative christians and 'love it or leave it' patriots. No Democrat will ever get those votes. Now --- Ohio, New Mexico, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missiouri ---those states are centrist and this is where your point comes most into play. [/ QUOTE ] I think you're missing the boat. Democrats routinely win in "red states." Many southern states that went republican in the presidential election have Democratic governors, Democraticly controlled state legislators, Democrats senators, or some combination thereof. But they're not raving socialist Democrats. They're yellow dogs and blue dogs. A non-southern Democrat hasn't won the white house in 45 years, and I doubt one ever will again.
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11-13-2005, 01:17 AM
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NJ Politics
The politics in NJ are extremely nasty. I don't think the ad is indicative of anything else. I don't know what county you live in, but passaic county freeholders specialize in making a profit off the county golf course, and that might be about it.
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#15
11-13-2005, 01:36 AM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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Because People in Red States are dumb. [/ QUOTE ] Once again, genius prevails. Brilliant comment. Absolutely brilliant. Your 180+ IQ just overflows, doesn't it? Your mommy and daddy must be so proud.
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11-13-2005, 02:27 AM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Certainly you are right, but most of the red states are dominated by conservative christians and 'love it or leave it' patriots. No Democrat will ever get those votes. Now --- Ohio, New Mexico, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missiouri ---those states are centrist and this is where your point comes most into play. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think you're missing the boat. Democrats routinely win in "red states." Many southern states that went republican in the presidential election have Democratic governors, Democraticly controlled state legislators, Democrats senators, or some combination thereof. But they're not raving socialist Democrats. They're yellow dogs and blue dogs. A non-southern Democrat hasn't won the white house in 45 years, and I doubt one ever will again. [/ QUOTE ] There's a difference between a Mississippi Democrat and a Ohio democrat. A Mississippi Democrat believes that all Muslims, buddhists, atheists, etc are going to Hell. A Mississippi Democrat believes that Vietnam was just another battle in the cold war. The only thing in common they have with Federalist democrats or centrist states Democrats like the ones from Ohio is Labor. They support agricultural subsidies, minimum wage, tarriffs, etc. So, as I understand it, they are raving socialist democrats. But socially, they are very conservative. Let's call them authoritarian socialists or the National Christian Communist Party ---NCCP. BTW, I have absolutely no facts to back this up. It's just my uneducated perception. And if I'm right, it's sad that the Democrats actually fund those wackos.
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11-13-2005, 02:27 AM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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[ QUOTE ] Because People in Red States are dumb. [/ QUOTE ] Once again, genius prevails. Brilliant comment. Absolutely brilliant. Your 180+ IQ just overflows, doesn't it? Your mommy and daddy must be so proud. [/ QUOTE ] I always thought that dems lose Red states because of "God, Gays and Guns"
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11-13-2005, 10:57 AM
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...I have absolutely no facts to back this up. It's just my uneducated perception.... [/ QUOTE ] No facts but you jumped right in and rambled on with implication and derision? (another genious strikes a blow for enlightenment) Could be folks like you and attitudes like yours are what loses votes for Dems.
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11-13-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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[ QUOTE ] Because People in Red States are dumb. [/ QUOTE ] Once again, genius prevails. Brilliant comment. Absolutely brilliant. Your 180+ IQ just overflows, doesn't it? Your mommy and daddy must be so proud. [/ QUOTE ] I currently live in a red state. Therefore, no, my IQ isn't 180+, I am clearly dumb.
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#20
11-13-2005, 02:01 PM
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Re: Why Dems Lose Red States
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No facts but you jumped right in and rambled on with implication and derision? (another genious strikes a blow for enlightenment) Could be folks like you and attitudes like yours are what loses votes for Dems. [/ QUOTE ] C'mon man. The point of my admission was to get myself educated, if I'm wrong, not to attract a 'see i told you so' criticism. Get it together and add to the discussion! BTW, I was admittedly too harsh in paragraph, but my main point just makes sense to me. I'm guessing that southern Democrats are social conservatives who are alligned with Labor. Now if you got facts, let's hear 'em.
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