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This wasnt a gutshot, it was open ended... the 6 or the 2 made me a straight... [/ QUOTE ] You had 8 outs with 3:1 pot odds and two cards to come. Implied odds assuming you make the straight (as you did) make the call ok...semi-loose in my mind. Did you think about raising on the flop as a possible free card play if you missed the turn? |
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[ QUOTE ] This wasnt a gutshot, it was open ended... the 6 or the 2 made me a straight... [/ QUOTE ] So you were getting 5:1 to improve on the turn with the pot giving 3:1... or did you think your (timid) call would get a free card??? [/ QUOTE ] With the implied odds of me hitting, I was fairly sure he had the Ace so i figured I could get it to showdown if I hit it. If I did not improve on the turn it was a definate muck... |
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So you were getting 5:1 to improve on the turn with the pot giving 3:1... or did you think your (timid) call would get a free card??? [/ QUOTE ] Do you not think we'll make up the 2SB on the turn if we hit? |
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I am raising this flop. You'll get a free card here like 90% of the time. If you get 3-bet, you know you need to catch to win.
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[ QUOTE ] So you were getting 5:1 to improve on the turn with the pot giving 3:1... or did you think your (timid) call would get a free card??? [/ QUOTE ] Do you not think we'll make up the 2SB on the turn if we hit? [/ QUOTE ] I actually was thinking about that and I'm not sure. Just seems to me that in these spots (and I don't spend a lot of time as SB vs. BB is pretty rare at a full game at these limits) players will try to c/r their good hands but bet with weak hands a lot. So when we raise the turn I think we are folding out SB a lot of the time. Don't know if that makes sense, just a thought. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So you were getting 5:1 to improve on the turn with the pot giving 3:1... or did you think your (timid) call would get a free card??? [/ QUOTE ] Do you not think we'll make up the 2SB on the turn if we hit? [/ QUOTE ] I actually was thinking about that and I'm not sure. Just seems to me that in these spots (and I don't spend a lot of time as SB vs. BB is pretty rare at a full game at these limits) players will try to c/r their good hands but bet with weak hands a lot. So when we raise the turn I think we are folding out SB a lot of the time. Don't know if that makes sense, just a thought. [/ QUOTE ] So a turn bet isn't worth 2SB where you play? Man, you need to change sites! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So you were getting 5:1 to improve on the turn with the pot giving 3:1... or did you think your (timid) call would get a free card??? [/ QUOTE ] Do you not think we'll make up the 2SB on the turn if we hit? [/ QUOTE ] I actually was thinking about that and I'm not sure. Just seems to me that in these spots (and I don't spend a lot of time as SB vs. BB is pretty rare at a full game at these limits) players will try to c/r their good hands but bet with weak hands a lot. So when we raise the turn I think we are folding out SB a lot of the time. Don't know if that makes sense, just a thought. [/ QUOTE ] So a turn bet isn't worth 2SB where you play? Man, you need to change sites! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] LOL wasn't really thinking about that eiter [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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I was fairly sure he had the Ace [/ QUOTE ] Why? And i have changed my mind. We need to raise this flop. |
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For an EV of +.5BB right? Not bad, I stand corrected. Raising the turn increases probably increases your EV if he has an Ace.
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I just fold this flop and move on the the next hand, given the read on villian and the super small pot.
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