BB overbets into my AA on coordinated Flop - 2/4 6max

[KowCiller]

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I usually call off my stack and win.

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does that mean you just call the flop? No push yet?

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Yeah it means I call the flop, they push the turn, I call and win.

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Still following this plan when a 3, 7, 8, 2 or spade hits the turn? Granted villain's line is goofy no matter what hand he actually holds but pushing the flop keeps you out of a tough turn decision. Of course your line gains more value out of a weird bluff.

KoW

[TheWorstPlayer]

Yeah, I just call no matter what. I'm a fish. AND I HAVE ACES!

[KowCiller]

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Yeah, I just call no matter what. I'm a fish. AND I HAVE ACES!

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So this kind of implies that your range for villain is heavily weighted to pure air or a hand drawing to 2 outs against us. Have you seen action like this on the 400 games that indicate this range?

Honestly I can't remember the last time I've seen this type of action, so perhaps my range is too wide - including many combo draws?

KoW

[TheWorstPlayer]

I havent seen this action too often. But when a dude just sits down and starts bombing away, usually they are a maniac and not someone who just extremely fast plays monsters into preflop raisers. This bet seems very clearly designed to get you to fold. No?

[jhall23]

That is what is seems like to me.

Whatever he has this is one of the most retarded plays ever unless he can somehow see Van Helsings cards and thinks this odd bet will get a call when he has a set. I probably call this unless the other big stack is so bad and quickly giving away chips that I want to cover him to get them before someone else does(this would be very rare ) just incase this guy actually has a monster.

But the bet doesn't make any sense it's not like someone can pin point a button raise as a big overpair so why the heck would he bet like this with a monster (misclick meant 25 and hit the 1 by mistake?)

[KowCiller]

Certainly. I wasn't disagreeing with you necessarily, but I was trying to figure out why the ranges we assigned were pretty different. I don't really believe he's fast playing a set like this, but I was giving much more weight to combo draw type hands instead of air.

If we make the assumption we're backing our stack with this hand (which I think is reasonable), the question becomes "Based on his range of hands, what's the best way to get the most when he's got air while simultaneously putting in the least as a huge dog."

I'm not sure what the answer to that is, but as you know the answer is determined from his flop range.

Anyway I was primarily asking if you'd seen that action much and subsequently had a better idea as to the likely range.

KoW

[TheWorstPlayer]

No I haven't. Most people don't sit down and overbet the flop into a preflop raiser on their first hand.

[vanHelsing]

First reflex was I likely have to fold against an unknown. Either way behind or coin flipping.
2nd thought: Which hand exactly would anybody play like this? I couldn't come up with a single one. Even vulnarable bottom 2 pair will most likely CR.
So, looked like a freak play and I decided to play for my stack.
If I'd just call, I'd have to call/raise the money in on turn, no matter what.
Well, 20 secs. can be short, I decided, if he is retarded enough to make a play like this, I'll have a good chance, he'll talk himself into a call with a hand I dominate, while he might get off the hook on turn. I mean, a call from me is pretty much committing and he might see this as well, but what do I know?

I pushed, he thought nearly 20 secs. and finally called.

He had T8o, my hand held up and he left the table.

Maybe one should think about copying his play, with an actual nut hand. Against the right opponent it would be pretty deceptive.

[xorbie]

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Yeah, I just call no matter what. I'm a fish. AND I HAVE ACES!

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This has pretty much been my postflop strategy with AA since moving up to the 200/400 games.

[BobboFitos]

its a misclick! push!

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