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Old 11-04-2005, 03:23 AM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: Fold or call down.

You call the turn because of your strong draw, and call the river because you got there and it's only 1 more bet. He can be semi-bluffing a number of pair+str8 draw hands that you beat, not to mention AJ.

good luck.
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:41 AM
veganmav veganmav is offline
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Default Re: Fold or call down.

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You call the turn because of your strong draw, and call the river because you got there and it's only 1 more bet.

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Isn't this the kind of thinking that sklansky says to avoid in some of the books? correct me if I'm wrong, but seriously isn't this seroiusly what we should avoid? I honestly thought call the turn ray, and fold to a river bet, even if it is just one more. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:25 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: Fold or call down.

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You call the turn because of your strong draw, and call the river because you got there and it's only 1 more bet.

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Isn't this the kind of thinking that sklansky says to avoid in some of the books? correct me if I'm wrong, but seriously isn't this seroiusly what we should avoid? I honestly thought call the turn ray, and fold to a river bet, even if it is just one more. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Seriously? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I doubt Sklansky suggests avoiding this kind of thinking, especially if, by "this kind", you mean analytical. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

On the turn, you have plenty of ways to improve to the best hand vs his hand range, so you can call profitably without even worrying whether or not you actually have the best hand. On the river, you are getting good enough odds that another call is in order.

If you had no way to improve, you'd have to view the odds differently, since you'd now have to call 2 to see a showdown. You'd have to be somewhat more confident you were ahead on the turn to make the call if you thought he was representing exactly a straight.

good luck.
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