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Old 11-03-2005, 05:27 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: AK unimproved river value bet?

My bad, didn't read your reads. Eh, still, the fact that UTG will show down "any 2" doesn't make your ace high any less likely to be good vs 2 people.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river value bet?

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fold the turn because UTG called. Certainly don't bet the river. If UTG wasn't there, I don't think a calldown is awful.

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UTG calling makes me want to call more, not less. I am ahead of him nearly always here. I still think the turn is a fold though.

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I don't agree with your logic regarding the donk in this pot. Although his bet pads the pot a bit for your river call like you mentioned, it is common for this guy to have a pair like 44 or some other crap and take the pot. Unless he is calling down with like ten high which i doubt.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river value bet?

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I don't agree with your logic regarding the donk in this pot. Although his bet pads the pot a bit for your river call like you mentioned, it is common for this guy to have a pair like 44 or some other crap and take the pot. Unless he is calling down with like ten high which i doubt.

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He will certainly call a turn bet with ten high, but I haven't seen him showdown less than Q-high. He really is padding the pot. He would play a pair the same way, but there are many more unpaired hands than paired ones.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river value bet?

My bad, I thought you were talking about the river.
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