An interesting spot

[Dopey]

I'll start this by saying I don't play alot of 15-30 online so my opinion may not have alot of merit.

I'm just calling, raising presents too much of a risk in my opinion. Your risking potetnial 1BB extra to save 1/2BB


(Edited to remove original math that was wrong say risking extra 2BB to save 1/2BB and the possibility of free card is probably better than I originally assessed, but still not enough for me to raise)

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[Luv2DriveTT]

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In general, my rule for free card situations like this is that you have to be right 2/3 of the time for them to be a good idea (because you pay 1 BB extra when you get capped and led into, and save .5 BB when you raise and get a free card).


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So, if you cap and he bets you're calling the turn?

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If he caps and you call and he bets the turn, there will be 11 BB in the pot. Meaning you have to call just to hit the miracle J (assuming the turn doesn't pair the board... if it does, I think that swings it to a fold).

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How about this for a twist, what if the turn is the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and the villain bets. That makes for a more interesting decision.

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PS: Will - AC this weekend if you are not going to Vegas.

[brettbrettr]

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If he caps and you call and he bets the turn, there will be 11 BB in the pot. Meaning you have to call just to hit the miracle J (assuming the turn doesn't pair the board... if it does, I think that swings it to a fold).

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ARGGGGGRHRHHHHHH. This whole entire hand is wrong.

Here's how it went down:

I raised pre-flop, both called. [censored], I'm so sorry. This was all wrong.

There's 6.5 sbs in the pot. I bet, strightfoward passive BB check-raises. I ?

(Again, I'm sorry, this is just so, so wrong.)

[W. Deranged]

TT,

I'm goin' to Vegas! Never been before... can't wait. We definitely need to do AC sometime soon though.

[hobbsmann]

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If he caps and you call and he bets the turn, there will be 11 BB in the pot. Meaning you have to call just to hit the miracle J (assuming the turn doesn't pair the board... if it does, I think that swings it to a fold).

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ARGGGGGRHRHHHHHH. This whole entire hand is wrong.

Here's how it went down:

I raised pre-flop, both called. [censored], I'm so sorry. This was all wrong.

There's 6.5 sbs in the pot. I bet, strightfoward passive BB check-raises. I ?

(Again, I'm sorry, this is just so, so wrong.)

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I this case I like 3-betting A LOT more as you are much likely to pick up a free card as well as have your pair outs still being good.

[W. Deranged]

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If he caps and you call and he bets the turn, there will be 11 BB in the pot. Meaning you have to call just to hit the miracle J (assuming the turn doesn't pair the board... if it does, I think that swings it to a fold).

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ARGGGGGRHRHHHHHH. This whole entire hand is wrong.

Here's how it went down:

I raised pre-flop, both called. [censored], I'm so sorry. This was all wrong.

There's 6.5 sbs in the pot. I bet, strightfoward passive BB check-raises. I ?

(Again, I'm sorry, this is just so, so wrong.)

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Oh, yeah, then I'm three-bettin' so fast it'd make your head spin.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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You risk too much with it being capped and lead into on the turn.

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So what... sometimes it can get capped with Q6o, you are now a small underdog, I can live with that. A player of this type will often call with anything short of a set rather than raise because the board will scare him. Hero buys a free card more often than not.

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[brettbrettr]

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Oh, yeah, then I'm three-bettin' so fast it'd make your head spin.

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Yeah, me too.

I would just like to say that I was 100% confused by this hand. Its from a book, and the author recommends three-betting, as we've said. My problem was that I thought the pre-flop action was as I posted (where the BB three-bets) and so, in that scenario, I couldn't wrap my head around why the author recommended reraising the check-raise. Turns out I just read it wrong.

OMG this was easily the worst post ever. Apologies for clogging the board.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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TT,

I'm goin' to Vegas! Never been before... can't wait. We definitely need to do AC sometime soon though.

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Will - u suck at AC, Bret will become my new bitch. Ray, Armond, and the crew will all be in NJ. I'll send your love, I expect daily reports.

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[brettbrettr]

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Bret will become my new bitch.

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You're too old (and titless) for me. Sorry.