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Old 11-02-2005, 11:53 AM
Redd Redd is offline
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

IMO this is a straightforward call having checked, but I think the most interesting decision is whether or not we should lead the flop.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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IMO this is a straightforward call having checked, but I think the most interesting decision is whether or not we should lead the flop.

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i concur
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

I am betting this flop. And the way you played it you have to call the flop bet. You can easily have the best hand here and a lot of outs to improve (a heart on the turn might be good for you)
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

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...if the K hit the turn, you would have 7 clean outs (K, 3 J's and 3 10's) and 3-5 dirty outs (A's and Q's) to redraw for a boat.

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Why are the aces and queens dirty? Hero was the only preflop raiser, so I don't think you can reliably put anybody on 2 broadway cards.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

so, everybody agrees with the check on the flop?
We have only 3 opponents and a lot of outs to improve if behind. Why not bet if we are going to call?
We might clear some outs here and a chance to fold Ax (although very unlikely)
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

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Why not bet if we are going to call? We might clear some outs here and a chance to fold Ax (although very unlikely)

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No ace is folding unless all hell breaks lose. That is also why a bet is risky. This flop could have hit anyone hard. It has flush and straight draws all over it. It could get raised, checkraised, and/or capped. We might be drawing slim or dead. Don't know yet.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:48 PM
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Raise that flop.
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Peeling on a thin red line with KK?

I'd bet the flop.
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