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#11
11-01-2005, 11:56 PM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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I'd 3-bet him preflop. I like your postflop play though the flop is close between raise and call [/ QUOTE ] Hey, tell me what your three-betting standards are for this particular situation please? I think I have been playing KQo a little too softly here and I'm curious what other three-bets I might be missing. 
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#12
11-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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I'd 3-bet him preflop. I like your postflop play though the flop is close between raise and call [/ QUOTE ] Josh., I think that you've yelled at me before for bloating pots OOP in spots like this. Why would you 3-bet preflop? If I knew the limpers would fold I can see 3-betting. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], jason_t
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#13
11-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
I usually 3-bet this preflop, especially since you have position on the raiser. I'm also not sure I'd take my free card on the turn. Sure, you'll often be called down by a weak ace, but you're losing money from the smaller PPs and weaker Ks out there. Since you checked the turn, I would definitely bet the river when the flush hits, and then probably fold to a raise.
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#14
11-02-2005, 03:02 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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[ QUOTE ] I'd 3-bet him preflop. I like your postflop play though the flop is close between raise and call [/ QUOTE ] Josh., I think that you've yelled at me before for bloating pots OOP in spots like this. Why would you 3-bet preflop? If I knew the limpers would fold I can see 3-betting. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], jason_t [/ QUOTE ] 3 reasons: 1. you have position on the PFR 2. you face 2 limpers with 2 more bets. usually shorthanded limpers have weak hands and even semi-loose ones will dump them for 2 more. dead money is free money, and I'm jewish, and as we all know, jewish people love free money 3. the PFR has a 17 PFR which means that his range is wide enough that we're not necessarily dominated. we may even have him dominated. none of these things are enough to make it a 3-bet, but together I think it's a 3-bet
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#15
11-02-2005, 03:56 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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2. you face 2 limpers with 2 more bets. usually shorthanded limpers have weak hands and even semi-loose ones will dump them for 2 more. [/ QUOTE ] I was going to say this, but this depends on reads, and I didn't know if the limpers were the types to fold to two more bets. This is like bluffing into three opponents -- it is geometrically more likely to fail. Still, folding even one limper is adding dead money, as you said.
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#16
11-02-2005, 04:06 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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[ QUOTE ] 2. you face 2 limpers with 2 more bets. usually shorthanded limpers have weak hands and even semi-loose ones will dump them for 2 more. [/ QUOTE ] I was going to say this, but this depends on reads, and I didn't know if the limpers were the types to fold to two more bets. This is like bluffing into three opponents -- it is geometrically more likely to fail. Still, folding even one limper is adding dead money, as you said. [/ QUOTE ] even if you give each limper a 20% chance of folding, that's still pretty significant. dead money is like a freeroll. it can't beat you. at worst, you don't win it.
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#18
11-02-2005, 04:28 AM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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No one has mentioned the river. If it's checked, to you bet/call? [/ QUOTE ] I bet. the call part probably isn't worth worrying about
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#19
11-02-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
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[ QUOTE ] I'd 3-bet him preflop. I like your postflop play though the flop is close between raise and call [/ QUOTE ] thank god somebody said 3-bet. I was about to crap in my pants. [/ QUOTE ] wtf am I chopped liver? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#20
11-02-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: KQ - WA/WB?
I play it the same postflop. Consider 3-betting the SB preflop if you can fold out one of the limpers.
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