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Either villain could have anything here.
But you have to think you're behind at the moment. Lots of outs. But many/most of your outs could be bad. There is simply not enough information to decide here. I guess I fold against two villains. The pot's getting too big, so there's too much chance that I hit and go broke (reverse implied odds), and I have little invested in the pot at the moment. I can't really argue with a call or a raise. I don't want to play hands unless I feel like I have an edge, but that's just me. |
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Call? You really don't seem to have much FE but you've got plenty of outs here. UTG+1 behind you causes a problem or two, but I really don't see how that should affect your decision all that much. Anyways, I think it's a pretty standard call.
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#13
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Yeah it's a standard call here, you have plenty of outs and implied ooods.
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I can't really argue with a call or a raise. I don't want to play hands unless I feel like I have an edge, but that's just me. [/ QUOTE ] There is a huge difference between difficult spots with difficult decisions and spots that are -EV. |
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[ QUOTE ] I can't really argue with a call or a raise. I don't want to play hands unless I feel like I have an edge, but that's just me. [/ QUOTE ] There is a huge difference between difficult spots with difficult decisions and spots that are -EV. [/ QUOTE ] So what's your point? I'm not worried about difficult decisions. I don't think I'm +EV here, for the reasons I stated, so I don't play. |
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Yeah it's a standard call here, you have plenty of outs and implied ooods. [/ QUOTE ] Why does everyone think you have such great implied odds? A nine or a spade is pretty obvious, and you might still be behind. An 8 leaves you very far from the nuts. Maybe an 8 against an overpair specifically, kind of unlikely. I can't see anything but reverse implied odds here. |
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[ QUOTE ] Yeah it's a standard call here, you have plenty of outs and implied ooods. [/ QUOTE ] Why does everyone think you have such great implied odds? A nine or a spade is pretty obvious, and you might still be behind. An 8 leaves you very far from the nuts. Maybe an 8 against an overpair specifically, kind of unlikely. I can't see anything but reverse implied odds here. [/ QUOTE ] Oops, forgot about the inside straight. Maybe you get paid off there. |
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Tough question IMO, good one to post.
An argument can be made for just about any play here but I think I like calling best, folding a close second best and raising least. I suspect SB has a real hand that he won't let go and you can't be sure to lose the other guy. Having said that the other guy will usually fold and then you do have position in addition to your outs and pot odds. Part of the case for folding on the other hand is that you're left with so few chips here after calling the 150 which sucks plus you could hit an "out" and lose your stack as a result which folding avoids and there's certainly comething to be said for that. Imagine, having to "play poker" in a 55 sng. In situations like this where it's tough to find an absolute correct play you just have to trust your instincts and make the play that seems best at the time. If your a good player then your poker instincts are also good and you will will do just fine. That's what playing poker is all about. |
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I think I've concluded that it doesn't matter a whole lot what I do. Folding, calling, and pushing (my least favorite without a read) all seem reasonable.
I called, UTG+1 pushed and we both folded (I think he's pretty huge there, not that it really matters). I just felt dumb calling off a relatively big bet and not being able to even see the river, but I don't think UTG+1 pushes over that much, just unlucky. |
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