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11-05-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] One basic problem in this country is that politicians create a culture where balcks are told they are the victims. They are told that they cant do anything without governemnt help. The democrats use this message to gain 90% of their vote. Bottom line if you keep relying on the government you will stay poor. [/ QUOTE ] Actually Haliburton has been relying on the goverment for handouts during the entire Bush-Chenay regime. Haliburton has receved several no-bid contracts which has sent there stock price to the moon. Now that Bush's approval ratings are in the 20s, those no-bid contracts won't be as forthcoming and Haliburton stock price is beginning to reflect that. Why do Repulcians focus so much on the few millions given out from the government to poor people and ignore the billions given out buy the goverment in the form of no-bid contracts and discounted leases on oil wells? [/ QUOTE ] President Clinton's administration gave Halliburton-KBR a no bid contract as well. Learn your history. [/ QUOTE ] Also, Clinton got a blowjob from Monica, which obviously makes his point about HB moot. 
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11-05-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] One basic problem in this country is that politicians create a culture where balcks are told they are the victims. They are told that they cant do anything without governemnt help. The democrats use this message to gain 90% of their vote. Bottom line if you keep relying on the government you will stay poor. [/ QUOTE ] Actually Haliburton has been relying on the goverment for handouts during the entire Bush-Chenay regime. Haliburton has receved several no-bid contracts which has sent there stock price to the moon. Now that Bush's approval ratings are in the 20s, those no-bid contracts won't be as forthcoming and Haliburton stock price is beginning to reflect that. Why do Repulcians focus so much on the few millions given out from the government to poor people and ignore the billions given out buy the goverment in the form of no-bid contracts and discounted leases on oil wells? [/ QUOTE ] President Clinton's administration gave Halliburton-KBR a no bid contract as well. Learn your history. [/ QUOTE ] Also, Clinton got a blowjob from Monica, which obviously makes his point about HB moot. [/ QUOTE ] sorry, didnt realize his post had a point.
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11-05-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
1) The Hallliburton comment is intellectually lazy. You might just as well have said 'your momma.'
2)About Sowell: Which does he argue is more detrimental to black culture 1)underfunded school districts (compared to their suburban counterparts)with burned out teachers who are intimidated by many of the kids they're trying to teach 2) underfunded, slightly corrupt police departments (compared to their suburban counterparts) 3)white intellectuals who continue to blame Slavery and Jim Crow for inner city failings?
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#14
11-05-2005, 09:25 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
Sowell is such a joke. That this "changed your beliefs" can only lead me to think you are an absolute moron with no insights into more probing questions of "culture" or "history."
hahahah No point arguing with idiots, so I'll just laugh. Besides, the basic education in this [censored] country has failed you so badly that I doubt I'll be able to explain how woefully simplistic and intellectually bankrupt a gimp like Sowell is.
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11-06-2005, 04:58 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
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1) The Hallliburton comment is intellectually lazy. You might just as well have said 'your momma.' 2)About Sowell: Which does he argue is more detrimental to black culture 1)underfunded school districts (compared to their suburban counterparts)with burned out teachers who are intimidated by many of the kids they're trying to teach 2) underfunded, slightly corrupt police departments (compared to their suburban counterparts) 3)white intellectuals who continue to blame Slavery and Jim Crow for inner city failings? [/ QUOTE ] I honestly cannot say for sure how Sowell would rate those three items in terms of importance as he only addressed the third directly in the material I have read. I can only guess that the he would consider #3 the primary problem from which the others, directly and indirectly, stem. John
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11-06-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
[ QUOTE ] Sowell is such a joke. That this "changed your beliefs" can only lead me to think you are an absolute moron with no insights into more probing questions of "culture" or "history." hahahah No point arguing with idiots, so I'll just laugh. Besides, the basic education in this [censored] country has failed you so badly that I doubt I'll be able to explain how woefully simplistic and intellectually bankrupt a gimp like Sowell is. [/ QUOTE ] uh, what?!? Is there a moderator in this forum? Are blatent personal attacks really allowed? I can't help but think a lot of discussion must be lost this way. John
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11-06-2005, 05:31 PM
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Is there a moderator in this forum? Are blatent personal attacks really allowed? I can't help but think a lot of discussion must be lost this way. [/ QUOTE ] If you are in the "in" crowd, personal attacks are not only condoned, but encouraged. I suspect you are not in that group. Expect your post to be deleted, mischaracterized as a personal attack, and for your account to be banned. I've seen it happen before.
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11-06-2005, 09:31 PM
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President Clinton's administration gave Halliburton-KBR a no bid contract as well. Learn your history. [/ QUOTE ] Short-term no bid contracts are often a necessity in times of crisis. However, due to the fact that no-bids should be a short-term solution, no-bid contracts that have a long-term duration should be viewed with an eye of skepticism. I would argue that a 5 year no bid contract doesn't make much sense. If the Clinton administration signed such deals, they too should be criticized.
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#20
11-07-2005, 12:53 AM
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Re: Poor Blacks and entitlement culture
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[ QUOTE ] President Clinton's administration gave Halliburton-KBR a no bid contract as well. Learn your history. [/ QUOTE ] Short-term no bid contracts are often a necessity in times of crisis. However, due to the fact that no-bids should be a short-term solution, no-bid contracts that have a long-term duration should be viewed with an eye of skepticism. I would argue that a 5 year no bid contract doesn't make much sense. If the Clinton administration signed such deals, they too should be criticized. [/ QUOTE ] I dont care about who gets critcized. The implication of the post I was responding to was that no bid contracts for Halliburton originated with the current administration, which is factually wrong. To my knowledge the GAO has yet to find any sort of issues with the awarding of no-bid contracts.
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