ROI from folding all the way to the pushing zone?

[Vetstadium]

If you are 8 tabling with two monitors really not that difficult after awhile. Still early on I pretty much stick to the mentioned strategy but vary my AK play depending on position etc. I will limp on button early with lot of callers with suited connectors since I have learned to get away from a hand (lol) if I don't nail the flop hard.

[raptor517]

from what i have played, and what i have seen.. these are my predictions on what perfect pushbotting with that uber tight strategy can get you.. assuming you are an EXPERT pushbotter..

11s.. i have no idea 25% maybe
22s.. 20%ish
33s.. 17%ish
55s.. 13%ish
109s. 7-9%ish
215s. 4-5%ish

thats kinda rough.. but should be relatively close to what you can expect playing perfect pushbot. holla

[Mr_J]

Your've convinced me to perfect my pushbotting skills and hit the $215s. >$200/hr sounds nice, apparently I'll still only lose l in 4 weeks on average and will rarely have a losing month. That's based on the ROI simulator with 500 games a week at 4.5% ROI, tested over 100k sims.

Course I don't have much margin for error at 4-5%, so I'd want to know I'm unbelievable.

[raptor517]

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Your've convinced me to perfect my pushbotting skills and hit the $215s. >$200/hr sounds nice, apparently I'll still only lose l in 4 weeks on average and will rarely have a losing month. That's based on the ROI simulator with 500 games a week at 4.5% ROI, tested over 100k sims.

Course I don't have much margin for error at 4-5%, so I'd want to know I'm unbelievable.

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4-5% is what the best pushbotter in the world will do. also, go ahead and check what kinda variance you can expect to see. i really dont care.. common 10k swings suck ass to make 150-200 an hour. it really messes with yer head. holla

[Mr_J]

"go ahead and check what kinda variance you can expect to see"

I did = ROI simulator [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm used to sportsbetting type variance.

But yeh since I wanna make a $hitload of money by dec 31st (and not be +/- 20k), I'll just stick to my plan of 12tabling 55s.

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Your've convinced me to perfect my pushbotting skills and hit the $215s. >$200/hr sounds nice, apparently I'll still only lose l in 4 weeks on average and will rarely have a losing month. That's based on the ROI simulator with 500 games a week at 4.5% ROI, tested over 100k sims.

Course I don't have much margin for error at 4-5%, so I'd want to know I'm unbelievable.

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4-5% is what the best pushbotter in the world will do. also, go ahead and check what kinda variance you can expect to see. i really dont care.. common 10k swings suck ass to make 150-200 an hour. it really messes with yer head. holla

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10k swings? Ouch!

Are the 215s even worth it in general? The win rates seem so much lower and they have all of the absolute best SNG players. I wonder if the 109s aren't close per hr with a lot less variance.

[ChrisV]

I've recently decided the answer to this question is "no".

215s have improved out of sight from when I first started playing them in June or July last year. Pushbotting is no longer adequate, and I'm damned if I'm going to actually concentrate on the games and play top notch poker to get my money. I switched down to the 55s where I'm optimistic about profits of $100/hr 8-tabling (ROI = low 20s). I may also give the $100s a shot but every time I tried them back when I was 215ing they didn't seem that much easier than the 215s.

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from what i have played, and what i have seen.. these are my predictions on what perfect pushbotting with that uber tight strategy can get you.. assuming you are an EXPERT pushbotter..

11s.. i have no idea 25% maybe
22s.. 20%ish
33s.. 17%ish
55s.. 13%ish
109s. 7-9%ish
215s. 4-5%ish

thats kinda rough.. but should be relatively close to what you can expect playing perfect pushbot. holla

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Thanks Raptor, these are a good target for me to aim for.

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Your've convinced me to perfect my pushbotting skills and hit the $215s. >$200/hr sounds nice, apparently I'll still only lose l in 4 weeks on average and will rarely have a losing month. That's based on the ROI simulator with 500 games a week at 4.5% ROI, tested over 100k sims.

Course I don't have much margin for error at 4-5%, so I'd want to know I'm unbelievable.

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Interesting.
Mr_J could you run a sim on the $22's at 20%ROI

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Thanks Raptor, these are a good target for me to aim for.

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Don't aim for results. You don't control them.