88 flops set and gets action

[krimson]

It's not the fact that you miss a c/r, it's that MP3 will bet and your raise then faces MP1 with 2-bb-cold. I think he usually folds (he didn't, but I think more often than not, he will). I think he is more likely to call the 2-sb's on the flop and then call for 1 more on the turn.

Math time.

Wait for turn to raise (where MP1 folds):
Our Investment: 2sb's flop, 2bb turn.
Returns: 4sb's flop, 2bb turn
(3:4)

3-bet on flop:
Out investment: 3sb's flop, 1bb turn
Returns: 6 sb's flop, 2bb turn
(2.5:5)

The math gives what I would consider the "typical" result based on your flop decision. Obviously both lines are prone to earn more than stated.

[droolie]

Working backwards given how you played it....

I like leading the river and calling a raise.

I like leading the turn here and hoping to 3-bet it trapping MP1.

I like jamming this flop by leading it and hoping to 3-bet as MP1 is pasive and it might get checked through to MP3 and you'll have to decide on C/Ring and knocking out MP1 or calling (blech).

[shant]

Switch seats at the table dude.

I like jamming early, taking the lead, and not allowing any free cards to the draws to fall. But seeing as you didn't take the lead, I think the turn and river are pretty good, although I of course wouldn't mind a turn donk.

This is a tricky spot. My guess is that you are up against bottom set, AKh, or JJ. I think that AKh is most likely followed by bottom set. I would bet/call on the end

[BigBrother]

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It's not the fact that you miss a c/r, it's that MP3 will bet and your raise then faces MP1 with 2-bb-cold. I think he usually folds (he didn't, but I think more often than not, he will). I think he is more likely to call the 2-sb's on the flop and then call for 1 more on the turn.

Math time.

Wait for turn to raise (where MP1 folds):
Our Investment: 2sb's flop, 2bb turn.
Returns: 4sb's flop, 2bb turn
(3:4)

3-bet on flop:
Out investment: 3sb's flop, 1bb turn
Returns: 6 sb's flop, 2bb turn
(2.5:5)

The math gives what I would consider the "typical" result based on your flop decision. Obviously both lines are prone to earn more than stated.

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I see where you are coming from.

What hands does MP1 call 2 cold on the flop and another on the turn that he would fold for 2 on the turn, remembering that MP1 is the more passive postflop player and MP3 is the more aggro?

I guess leading the turn makes the most sense either way since MP3 is more likely to raise. I'm having trouble being objective because of the results.

[WillMagic]

Bet/call.

Will