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Old 10-24-2005, 07:15 PM
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damn you were quick to reply!! I edited the post because i didnt realise that
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:18 PM
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What's wrong with calling and waiting for a non-spade turn to bet/raise?

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Protect your hand. Letting Villain overcall with the nut draw at the right price isn't forcing them into a mistake. This isn't limit... you can set an incorrect price for your opposition, so you should take advantage of this.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:25 PM
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Well he didn't know villian was interested in the hand

The way I see it, if the turn is a non-spade your equity is larger, and it's likely SB or BB will bet into you

I don't mind giving up the pot ~20% of the time in order to be in this situation the other ~80% of the time

edit: and you can still call a non-spade turn if you think some one has the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:29 PM
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I don't mind giving up the pot ~20% of the time in order to be in this situation the other ~80% of the time


[/ QUOTE ] I'd rather have Villain be making a mistake by calling me. If he wants to get allin on the flop with ~30% equity against me, I'm happy. But I see your point.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:10 PM
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Hero folds, like the scared little girl that he is. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:11 PM
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Ewwwwwww
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:17 PM
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He has only $10, I push here for sure.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:17 PM
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Thats pretty much my feeling about it now that ive had some time for reflection too.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:24 PM
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I'm a little confused why everyone pretends someone doesn't have a made flush here. Its a limped pot. All sorts of suited connectors could have played here.

I think the one who raised played it exactly how someone with a weak made flush would play it.

People seem to always think on a monotone flop that people are drawing for the flush, when in reality, a lot of people, particularly at the $25 tables, play any 2 suited.

If this was a raised pot, it would be less likely to put someone on a flush (only because Ax and Kx would be out).

Personally, I don't think this is the time to go nuts with bottom set.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:49 PM
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I'm a little confused why everyone pretends someone doesn't have a made flush here. Its a limped pot. All sorts of suited connectors could have played here.

I think the one who raised played it exactly how someone with a weak made flush would play it.

People seem to always think on a monotone flop that people are drawing for the flush, when in reality, a lot of people, particularly at the $25 tables, play any 2 suited.

If this was a raised pot, it would be less likely to put someone on a flush (only because Ax and Kx would be out).

Personally, I don't think this is the time to go nuts with bottom set.

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fully agree
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