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Old 10-23-2005, 09:58 PM
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So if people go all in, they have to come up with the complete buy-in (which I think is a little excessive).

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This is a misstatement of the rule, which is what leads to your confusion.

The rule is that if you have no more chips (or cash if cash plays) on the table than you must make a full buy-in in order to buy more chips.

You may think that this makes no sense, but short buys make no sense to me.
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:31 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: when are you officially all in?

People who try to buy in short after getting tapped are usually not playing well. I want their action. Also, if you tell them they have to come up with 2k, they may leave and not come back. But if you allow them the short buyin, they may lose it and then go get more money to lose. Malmuth actually mentions this in one of his poker essays books...sometimes you don't want to enforce short buy-in restrictions if it makes it more likely someone will go off for all their money.

This is a minor issue to me b/c people at Borg generally always come up with lots of hundred dollar bills. I just think the regulars who wanted these buyin rules are not really thinking it through.

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Old 10-23-2005, 10:22 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: when are you officially all in?

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There are no short buy-ins in Atlantic City. Once you go all in, you must buy in for at least the table minimum. At Borgata, the buy-ins for 40-80 and 80-160 are higher than the norm (1000 and 2000 respectively). So if people go all in, they have to come up with the complete buy-in (which I think is a little excessive). I think there should be one short buy-in allowed...people are just paranoid about hit and run I guess.

Jeff

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These aren't that much larger than standard. The normal buy-iin is 5 times that max bet for games lower than 30-60, $500 for 30-60, and 10 times the max bet for games larger than 30-60.
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:27 PM
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10 times the max bet for games larger than 30-60.

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I don't believe this to be the case in AC outside of Borgata, but I'm honestly not sure.

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Old 10-23-2005, 10:29 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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10 times the max bet for games larger than 30-60.

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I don't believe this to be the case in AC outside of Borgata, but I'm honestly not sure.

Jeff

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Nothin I would say applies to AC, these are standard buy-ins for normal poker rooms.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: when are you officially all in?

You're all in once you have no more chips in front of you. When those last 100 go into the pot, whether there's a raise or not, you're all in. The side pot will be created IF more money goes in, but even if it doesn't you are all in because you're out of chips.
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:11 PM
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2 questions

Why would you be all in ever anyway in a limit game, and why would you want to rebuy for less than the usual 5BB minimum?
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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2 questions

Why would you be all in ever anyway in a limit game, and why would you want to rebuy for less than the usual 5BB minimum?

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i wouldnt
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