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Old 10-22-2005, 01:59 AM
blackize blackize is offline
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

I ran it in twodimes twice with the villain having exactly AA and exactly TT. We have 11% equity each time, getting 19-1 this is an autocall.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

I remember a hand where I had KK capped preflop against a tight player, capped the flop and he bet into me on the turn I thought for a while and folded. Surely he knew that only Aces or Kings would cap preflop and the flop so if he bet into me he must have Aces. Another player was in the pot and when it got to a showdown he the tight player had QQ.

In this hand the pot is big you can make runner runner straight you can also hit another J, he may have AT.

See the turn if its an Ace and he bets into you then you can fold otherwise just see what happens.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

Those pokerstove odds are for going all the way to the river. You're not gonna have odds to call on the turn just for a set though so you can't go by that. Of course, if you have the best hand some percentage of the time it's different, but if you know he has AA/TT you can't call the flop getting 10:1, you need a lot more.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

True. Obviously his hand range cant be exclusively these two hands. If that were his hand range the flop is still almost an autocall getting 19-1 with 5.5% equity on the turn, but we will be ahead some % of the time.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

i saw the title of this post (and in HUSH) and thought, yikes!
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

I call down all the way unless an A hits.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Learning to fold overpairs - JJ

yikes, might want to rethink your location obs.
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