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Old 10-22-2005, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

Its TPWK 5way on a 2 flush board. Only overcards are an Ace and King plus with 1 fairly aggressive player in late position it is unlikely to get checked through.

The pot also isnt very big so wouldnt it be better to just check and see what happens hoping that a bet only comes from the late position player?
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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God I wish this game was that simple.

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It is in this case. Giving a free card is a disaster.

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giving a free card in a small pot is not a disaster, and unfortunately this game is not that simple. With top pair weak kicker or top pair strong kicker, unraised pot or not, there are many variables in play that can make checking better than betting and vice versa.

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giving a free card in a small pot is much worse than taking it down to a bet and win vs. those hands that wont call ab et but may improve to beat you w/ a free card when you are OOP and there are 2 overcards that can come to your pair.

this hand is indeed pretty simple.

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You need to read or reread the orginal post, there are two aggressive players in this hand, this means that if the hero checks this flop it is very unlikely to get checked around, which means the hero now has access to more strategies in his arsenal than simply betting out. This specific hand is not simple and can now be played in many ways becuz of the opponents in this hand. If all the players were passive, then this hand would be simple, since it should be obvious that the hero should bet out since its too likely to be checked around. When there are 2 or more aggressive opponents in the hand with you, there can be reasons to check this hand or bet this hand.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

Betting makes it much easier to play the hand.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

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Its TPWK 5way on a 2 flush board. Only overcards are an Ace and King plus with 1 fairly aggressive player in late position it is unlikely to get checked through.

The pot also isnt very big so wouldnt it be better to just check and see what happens hoping that a bet only comes from the late position player?

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The small pot is a reason to bet. Anything but a flushdraw will make a mistake calling. Even agressive players check when they totally miss the board which is very likely here.

Besides I think it is wrong to call this a marginal hand. You have top pair decent kicker and only have to worry about another Q. As a rule of thumb it is usually prudent to get some money in the pot with the best hand.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

I think what OP was trying to point out was if there is any point in checking in hopes of checkraising the aggressive player last to act.

In doing so he would protect his hand better.

Surely there are times will this will apply and it will be a better strategy but I think this is a clear bet on the flop and see where your at with this hand right away.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: marginal made hand in BB

Check and see what happens.
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