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Old 10-20-2005, 05:59 PM
KDawgCometh KDawgCometh is offline
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

I don't like the PF three bet at all.

flop, I'd rather just check here and take a free shot at hitting something

this river seems like a little overkill to be honest. we have the 2nd nut straight and a bdoor flush came in. I'm not capping it after it gets three bet back at us
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

to tell you the truth, i really wasnt paying attention to villains stats preflop, i normally do, but this time i didnt

i have usually just called preflop in the past, the reason i 3-bet was because of a discussion i had with tstonembd on his website about a hand where he 3-bet K6s in a similar situation, SB in is his hand had a PFR of 9.5, so this is somewhat different, but like i said, for some reason i wasnt paying attention, a link to that discussion can be found here

on the flop, i thought villain may have had an underpair or may have been trying to c/r, i figured i have little FE against a pair, but i would like to see a free river with my gutshot, so i bet

the turn is pretty straightfoward, hes not folding, ill take my free card and not get c/red

on the river, i didnt really put him on a flush or KQ, but they are possibilities, i thought he was probably slowplaying something on the flop and missed a c/r on the turn, but this read isnt really founded so maybe just calling the 3-bet is better, this im not really sure about, what do people think his river 3-betting range is in this hand?
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

a10, 1010, AA, lower straight.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

Three-betting here pre-flop is foolish. You are most likely behind here (people who don't raise in 70 hands pre-flop aren't trying to steal your blind with J high). Call the raise, flop a pair, or else get the hell out.

The early street decisions on this hand are quite straightforward given your opponents profile. Don't outthink yourself, and certainly don't raise pre-flop here because you know you can "outplay him post-flop" or some junk like that.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

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a10, 1010, AA, lower straight.

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a lower straight i kind of doubt, im thinking AA and TT are very distinct possibilities

does a person whose never raised PF cap with KQ?

i think he bets flop or at least c/r on the flop and not turn with AKs

the more i think about the PF cap, i really dont think im behind on the river

edit: i also think JJ is a possiblity
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:29 PM
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I'd just call PF. I'd also just call the river 3-bet.

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Old 10-20-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

The thing about AA and TT is that theres a 4-straight on board. Villain doesn't seem to fear a straight although that may be because we all know he capped the river.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

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The thing about AA and TT is that theres a 4-straight on board. Villain doesn't seem to fear a straight although that may be because we all know he capped the river.

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i capped the river
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:33 PM
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The thing about AA and TT is that theres a 4-straight on board. Villain doesn't seem to fear a straight although that may be because we all know he capped the river.

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i capped the river

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Whoops forget what I just said. I blame alcohol.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: blind defense with Q9s

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I'll bet 50 dollars he Had A:Spade:K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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ill take that bet if you want, but then again i know the results, so it kind of puts you at a disadvantage
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