Micro 6 max: A9s

[TheKentock]

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Muck this preflop. That's pretty bad. The flop check raise isn't too bad, but I think I fold this when villain 3 bets. At that point we are getting 13:1 to see a turn and I'm positive that we have 3 outs max.

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I'm new to 6-max, but I assumed this was a pretty standard call preflop from the BB. Also, I disagree about folding to the 3-bet on the flop. I am not at all convinced that we are outkicked here, as I have noticed that people love their Ax even more in 6-max than they do in full ring. There is a good chance that we are second best here, but I don't think that it's certain by any means. Basically, I disagree with both your critiques, but I'm curious what other people with a lot of 6-max experience have to say.

[gharp]

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Muck this preflop. That's pretty bad.

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I routinely call preflop here, especially in 6-max. I'd be more likely to 3-bet than fold.


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The flop check raise isn't too bad, but I think I fold this when villain 3 bets. At that point we are getting 13:1 to see a turn and I'm positive that we have 3 outs max.


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I think 13:1 is enough to draw to three outs with implied odds. I'm also not convinced yet that we're behind.

And the K really isn't that bad a turn card for you, since you pick up a lot of hidden outs against AQ/AJ/AT if the board pairs.

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I routinely call preflop here, especially in 6-max. I'd be more likely to 3-bet than fold.

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what do you gain by 3betting this?

[Aaron W.]

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We want to increase our chances of winning. The pot is large enough that we would rather have him out than in.

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I think he folds the flop without an ace very often when we lead into the preflop raiser on an ace high flop. The risk of a raise is way too high to call with a 7 or 2 profitably and the only draws are 34/35/45.

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I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying. The original argument was to lead on the flop to *NOT* knock him out.

[Aaron W.]

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Muck this preflop. That's pretty bad.

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Yuck.

[gharp]

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I routinely call preflop here, especially in 6-max. I'd be more likely to 3-bet than fold.

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what do you gain by 3betting this?

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Value. I'm not saying I do it as a default, and I'd be more likely to call than 3-bet (especially in my first hand at the table). But folding wouldn't be on the list.

[milesdyson]

i think check calling the flop is the bestest play.

[Duerig]

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I'm not sure about the way I played this hand. It is literally my first hand at the table. Comments on all streets are appreciated.

I'll post my thoughts on the hand when I get to campus.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.25 (All-In), Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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Thanks for the replies so far. My thoughts:

PF: I think this is standard. I may be wrong, as I haven't played a lot of 6-max.

Flop: I think the check raise is pretty bad. I'm probably way ahead of UTG and WA/WB MP. I should bet and hope that UTG puts in a bunch of dead money.

Turn: Given the flop action, I think this is standard

River: Given the way that MP played the flop/turn...

I'm ahead of AQ(8), AJ(8), AT(8), A7s(6) (30 combos)
and behind AA(1), AK(6), 77(3) discounted KK(~1), (~11 combos)

I think check-raising and calling a 3 bet would have been better than leading this river. There is very little danger of this getting checked through, so a check raise will almost always bring me 2 BBs on the river. If I bet however, I will probably only get raised by hands that beat me, and due to my lack of reads, I have to pay off a raise.

[MrEngenic]

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We want to increase our chances of winning. The pot is large enough that we would rather have him out than in.

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What hand do you want to protect against?

I'd rather bet, call a raise and donk the turn. Maybe 3bet the flop.

[Buckmulligan]

My bad. I didn't notice that we are in the BB. Mucking this preflop is actually really really bad, not choosing not to fold as I previously stated.
I think Miles might have the sauce with the WA/WB line of check calling. I bet the river if he checks the turn, which I don't think he'll do. In those cases when he expectedly bets the turn, I think I still check/call the river.