QQ(kind of strange line)

[detruncate]

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bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn is the juice.

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This is a fun line to bust out. If there's a lot of action and frequent turn raises then I like it a lot. However, it tends to freeze up a lot of even fairly lagtstic players. I want to know that Villain is capable of putting in multiple bets with TP or worse or that he's a thinking player in a situation where we appear likely to be putting out a probing bet and/or trying to prevent a free card.

[car ramrod]

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bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn is the juice.



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Nah its cool. The problem is if he is on a stone cold bluff and folds the turn but thats probably not the case since he is such a TAG and raised PFR. I will do the CR on the turn the next time.

Ps. Can I find a fold somewhere if Im 3-bet?

[eviljeff]

eh, FPS HU on a board like this is fine.

[detruncate]

LAG how? Will going multiple flop bets kill your action? Often aggressive players don't think about slowing down until later streets, so flop action essentially amounts to free money. Especially when you've been stealing/defending aggressively. But if he's thinking enough to slow down when you push back on the flop, a smooth call is fine.

I presume that Villain has a made hand or is on a bluff since the board is fairly drawless. In general, you're balancing the possibility that he'll give up these sorts of hands on the turn when you c/r vs the chance he checks through the river or folds to the river c/r when he would have called on the turn.

If he's more likely to be on a draw, you should c/r now while he's committed to the pot and a free card is more likely to hurt you -- he might even miss his draw but make a pair he shows down anyway. But with this board, you're more worried about pushing him out. He's also unlikely to check through the river, and will probably call a c/r with a fairly wide range since it's only one more bet to showdown and your raise might seem like a bluff he'd make with overs. Or he might call for the sake of curiosity alone given your strange line.

Not a bad way to play it given that Villain is usually behind with 5 outs at most. But be conscious that you might have to abandon your plan if a scare card falls.

Exactly my thinking. Maybe I should continue to play it the same when the board is this drawless. He got to think Im on overcards with my passive line.

In case nobody read it. He 3-bet the river. Is this an easy laydown?

[TomBrooks]

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bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn is the juice.

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[lautzutao]

I would have checkraised the turn. If villian 3-bets I cap. If he bets into us on the river I call.

[lautzutao]

Betting into this villian twice is going to slow him down. We collect more bets if we check/raise.