ugh ... blind battle

[Jake (The Snake)]

Against this type of opponent, I probably just call preflop. I think we give up a little value by folding, but maybe not.

The value of raising preflop OOP in spots like this tends to come from fold equity, and someone with those numbers seems to me like somebody who won't be folding easily postflop. So I don't like the raise here.

[Adam22]

calling in the sb seems pretty puzzling to me first in here. why would you do that and how would you play it afterwards?

[Jake (The Snake)]

Preflop play is not my specialty but I would be surprised if any of the three options preflop are vastly superior.

I love raising preflop in close situations because it makes postflop easier to play usually. I'm not sure it does that here against this type of player, so I'd rather call of fold.

Edit: Note that raising "first in" is usually meant for when hero is in MP or LP so that raising will help him get better position postflop. Here we are guarenteed to be oop postflop.

[Harv72b]

I check/fold the turn. You flopped bottom pair with a so-so kicker, and your best hope that you were good (that he 3-bet with a flush draw) just blew up in your face. So now all you really have left to hope for is that he's completely F.O.S., and I don't think you can expect a relative unknown to be playing a worse hand this strongly 1 in 7 times (and that's ignoring the extra bet you must be planning to put in on the river).

[Harv72b]

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Here we are guarenteed to be oop postflop.

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Unless villain folds preflop, which is obviously what we're hoping he does.

Against a relatively unknown player who has looked TAG so far, I don't like openlimping anything from the SB. Except maybe AA. If the BB were loose/passive, I'd prefer completing preflop.

[Jake (The Snake)]

I missed that the read was over only 25 hands, which would change things a bit.

Also, isn't Tommy Angelo experimenting with calling out of the blinds more often or something like that? Anybody care to fill me in?

I just don't like raising in this spot where it seems extremely likely that villain won't be folding. If he does fold, then sure, raise her up.

[TomBrooks]

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Against this type of opponent, I probably just call preflop.
The value of raising preflop OOP in spots like this tends to come from fold equity, and someone with those numbers seems to me like somebody who won't be folding easily postflop.

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I like just calling preflop also. This seems to me like a hand worth seeing the flop with, but one not quite strong enough for a raise, and I'd be unhappy to have it 3bet.

I hadn't even considered the apparent low postflop fold equity vs. this opponent until I read Jake's post, but I think that's a good point adds supports to a call vs. a raise.

On the flop, I'd rather bet out. Bottom pair with OC kicker on a two flush board of the wrong suit for us and I don't feel our hand is strong enough for a checkraise. I don't expect to be able to fold Villian with a checkraise, so I'd rather not jam the pot that much. If it only got called, the turn pot would be a little smaller and betting out again might make a Villian call on that street a little more incorrect.

[TomBrooks]

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Harv72: I check/fold the turn. You flopped bottom pair with a so-so kicker, and your best hope that you were good (that he 3-bet with a flush draw) just blew up in your face. So now all you really have left to hope for is that he's completely F.O.S., and I don't think you can expect a relative unknown to be playing a worse hand this strongly 1 in 7 times (and that's ignoring the extra bet you must be planning to put in on the river).

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Piiop: I don't like your attempt at the river. After that and blind war I don't think he's folding anywhere near enough of the time for [a bet] to be profitable.

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[Nick Royale]

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Against a relatively unknown player who has looked TAG so far, I don't like openlimping anything from the SB.

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