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Old 10-15-2005, 07:46 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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What version are you using? I got v1.18b

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1.19test10
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:51 PM
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No you aren't wrong snpt doesn't take into account micro stacks and it says so right in the forums there.

When in doubt do the move that makes the most sense when you see tiny stacks in play
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:31 PM
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SNGPT doesn't understand that UTG will be allin next hand, so yeah, it overrates the EV of pushing here.

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That's not really true.

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Old 10-15-2005, 10:38 PM
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Does it take into consideration micro stacks? For example:

UTG 50
BU 3500
Hero 950
BB 3500
100/200 bilnds

Folds to you in the SB with J9o. SNGPT says push.

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It says no such thing.

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Old 10-16-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Question about SNGPT

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Does it take into consideration micro stacks? For example:

UTG 50
BU 3500
Hero 950
BB 3500
100/200 bilnds

Folds to you in the SB with J9o. SNGPT says push.

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It says no such thing.

eastbay

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Uhhh....yea it does. I'm looking at it right now.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:42 AM
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Do you always use those call ranges? I never use those.. I think they're too tight for the $22's. If that was the standard CR, I could just start pushing at 50/100 and never stop. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:55 AM
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If BB has you covered by that much, his calling range will be much larger than the average range you selected. Given you're example, I think you're pretty clearly in fold any two territory.

I re-did the problem with CO having just enough to cover the BB (taking the chips from button), and in that case you can push AA, and maybe KK if BB is either way too loose or way too tight, but given that in your example UTG will be all-in on his next two hands, I think you probably have to fold AA here, too (from a $EV point of view).
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:00 AM
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I think you probably have to fold AA here, too (from a $EV point of view).

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sorry , you are not folding AA here. or anything close to AA
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Question about SNGPT

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Does it take into consideration micro stacks? For example:

UTG 50
BU 3500
Hero 950
BB 3500
100/200 bilnds

Folds to you in the SB with J9o. SNGPT says push.

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It says no such thing.

eastbay

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Uhhh....yea it does. I'm looking at it right now.


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No it doesn't. You may be looking, but you aren't seeing.

(You're exhibiting a very common mistake, so I'm making an example of you. Nothing personal.)

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Old 10-16-2005, 12:42 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Question about SNGPT

I dont understand why it gave him a calculation at all, but even so... As mentioned the calling ranges are waaay too tight.

SNGPT isnt a magic toy that spits out an answer. You have to put in a range that makes sense. the BB is going to call at LEAST with the top 15% and maybe as low as the top 23%(in this scenerio)... ya that much IMO... If I a wrong then I am not using proper ranges either.
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