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Old 10-11-2005, 11:05 PM
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P.s - The reason for the document? Don’t be surprised if it wasn’t published for the edification of us 2+2ers. (Maybe we are as big as our collective heads.) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I finally found something that I can call absolutely impossible.
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:58 AM
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I suspect we will find the word "allegory" used quite a bit in the teaching document in question.

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In many discussions of what is true in the Bible and what is not the defense of the stories being allegorical is brought up. If the interpretation is that the literal level of the text is outlandish, but the figurative level is sound, I have no problem with this. However, it holds no weight if what the person of faith rejects is the figurative level of the story. Certainly in at least one case of those mentioned, Genesis iii, 16, the Catholic Church probably wants to distance itself from the ramifications of the figurative part of the allegory. What the Church does not want to promote is the idea that God punishes women further than he does men and that they deserve it.
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:48 AM
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I'm glad to see you're finally working on the Catholics. We need their vote. We can't get to the Whitehouse w/o swinging a lot of the Catholics over to our side.

Ventura & Sklansky in 2008!!!
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:21 AM
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to the poster who believes that the catholic church is in business for itself, this is only true if by "itself" you also mean the single largest group collection of charities and non-profit organizations in the world. If you mean that, then yeah.


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If scientologists set up a similar number of charities, and, alongside doing good work, tried to peddle their religion to native tribes, the poor and the destitute, would you make this same comment?
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:45 AM
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NH, sir!

I'd BECOME a scientologist if they did that. A scientologist missionary!

How would the natives pay?
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:48 AM
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NH, sir!

I'd BECOME a scientologist if they did that. A scientologist missionary!



How would the natives pay?

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Umm, casino revenue?
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:09 AM
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to the poster who believes that the catholic church is in business for itself, this is only true if by "itself" you also mean the single largest group collection of charities and non-profit organizations in the world. If you mean that, then yeah.


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If scientologists set up a similar number of charities, and, alongside doing good work, tried to peddle their religion to native tribes, the poor and the destitute, would you make this same comment?

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Absolutely. When I was younger and all uber-christian (i.e. not thinking for myself), I went on a missionary trip to Africa with a bunch of kids from my jesuit high school. Apart from the 2,000 shots, the intense heat, and the smells, all I can really remember was shock (at the time) that the natives weren't forced into the religion, it was just there if they wanted to find out about it.

Im not a judgmental person. If satan worshippers also spent tens of millions on charities without forcing their religion on people, I would be all for it.

I leave prejudice to the Christians
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